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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it?


I can't answer your question as that's a nonsensical statement. Addiction is generally defined as a behavior that one cannot cease without help and that is having a negative impact upon their life.

The nature of your question, regarding responsibility, well... it's just not a responsible thing to do to negatively impact one's own life or quality of life if the goal of the individual is to sustain one's life and to pursue happiness.


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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
There isn't a set, clinical definition of "addiction" ...


Yes, there is. Here it is in a medical dictionary.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/addiction

It's a long article, here is a brief excerpt:

Quote:
In addition to a preoccupation with using and acquiring the abused substance, the diagnosis of addiction is based on five criteria:
loss of willpower
harmful consequences
unmanageable lifestyle
tolerance or escalation of use
withdrawal symptoms upon quitting


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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: wlh_99]
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Well in that case I am a full blown addict. My pot tolerance is off the charts :crankey:

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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: feifen]
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You have to fit a number but not all of the criteria as diagnosed by at least a basically trained medical professional so don't put the blunt down just yet.


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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: feifen]
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well then that settles it.

the friend in question is not by definition an addict because it did not create an unmanagable lifestyle.

Would he be better off in society if he stopped smoking pot? Yes, because he would probably have a 4.0 instead of a 3.9. But would he be better off overall? I say yes, because smoking pot makes him feel good, better than if he was not smoking it, the reason he smokes it. Why be successful but unhappy?

and also i do not agree that I have a chemical need for THC, nor do I think i would compromise my goals for THC.


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Re: Do you think that addiction is acceptable if you are responsible about it? [Re: wlh_99]
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wlh_99 said:
badchad said:
There isn't a set, clinical definition of "addiction" ...


Yes, there is. Here it is in a medical dictionary.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/addiction

It's a long article, here is a brief excerpt:

Quote:
In addition to a preoccupation with using and acquiring the abused substance, the diagnosis of addiction is based on five criteria:
loss of willpower
harmful consequences
unmanageable lifestyle
tolerance or escalation of use
withdrawal symptoms upon quitting



Honestly, that's a bullshit "online dictionary" and not used in actual medical practice.

The DSM-IV is what's used for a clinical diagnosis.  Currently, the DSM-IV defines "substance dependence" and "substance abuse".

It's also notable that in clinical practice, there is no such thing as "physical addiction".  Physical dependence is one component of substance dependence.  You can have one without the other and vice versa.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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