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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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If your in it for the long haul for your son ...just be sure that the anger is not directed towards him as he grows....i find myself doing this...i try so hard sometimes to separate the anger.... but most of the time it just gets all balled up and everybody gets to see me shitty.

This is the main reason i wanted to leave. Because if i couldn't keep from being an asshole to my kid. I would just rather not be there.

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Swyfty Swyf said:
Poptart said:
In fact not only do they have to accept the fact that I smoke they would have to smoke as well.



There's nothing wrong with girls who don't smoke.

There are plenty of seriously chill people who don't smoke.  :shrug:



right but their are plenty of seriously chill people who DO smoke.
And I would rather get with a girl who likes to toke up then not.

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Poptart]
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Careful with that; she might smoke all your shit, eat all your scooby-snacks, and forget to turn out all the lights, then complain about the bills.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Morican said:
The problem now, is that I have a beautiful lil man (my son) that is my life and means the world to me and I would stay and suffer for the rest of my life if I had to.



She knows that and is using it against you, putting pressure on you by utilizing your son. That's fucked up. I mean seriously, she might not have liked that "no sex for months" comment to your buddy, but wtf is this shit grabbing your kid and basically threatening you with taking him away?

You should either see a marriage counselor or a good divorce lawyer.

You have a regular income, always treated your kid well and have no criminal records? Fine, you won't need to worry that she'll be able to completely take him away from you then.

You gotta think if you really want your kid to grow up in a tense and hate filled atmosphere with him seeing his dad as a broken man, because of the way his mom is treating you.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Stop smoking pot immediately.  If you go through a divorce settlement the issue of drugs will come up.  If you want to have any control over your sons direction, i.e where he lives etc... make sure to test clean.  Im not entirely clear on the law here but I am fairly certain they can fuck you hard if you start testing positive for drugs

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Chespirito]
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^Good point^


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Sorry to speak badly of someone you love, but your wife sounds like an ignorant bitch. Now you just have to decide what's more important: Smoking pot or staying in this relationship? So she's against all things illicit, but she had no problem with a 20 year old drinking shots in your house? :facepalm: I hate this kind of logic.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Morican said:
I know that this probably isn't the right forum to be seeking help or advice on this particular subject but I am lost and scared and would appreciate some good advice or to hear others opinions or stories on the matter that is causing me so much pain and grief.

I have been married to my Wife for 3 going on 4 years this next February. We have a beautiful baby boy that is going to be three this December.
I have been an avid pot smoker off and on (longest I quit was for a couple of years) since I was 15yo. or so, I am now 40yo.

My Wife is completely anti anything illicit, meaning that the only thing she doesn't have a problem with is cigarettes and alcohol, because they are legal and socially more accepted.

She found my piece (pipe, pot smoking paraphernalia) once and made me promise her that I would quit. I did so (promise) because I was threatened with divorce but had no intention on quitting and only went more under ground. I have since gotten caught or rather she has found my pipe two more times, and this got it in her head that I lie to her and if I lie about one thing then what else may I be lying about and so the trust is gone. She then went on a campaign of withholding sex to punish me.

Three months go by of her withholding sex and I tell her that I know I messed up, but I do love her and simply don't agree with her that pot is such a bad thing and since she is not willing to even try to see my side of it that I felt that there was no option but to keep it from her. I would smoke when away from the house only, so as to not have it in her face and so I thought, since I'm not cheating or doing anything that would hurt my family then all should be cool.

Anyway, she told me that she decides when enough is enough and so the sexless punishment continues.

This past weekend it was her 20yo. brothers Birthday and we took him to a place called Dave and Busters where you can eat, play video games and drink liquor since it's also a bar. Her brother being only 20 couldn't drink there so I told my Wife that she could invite her brother and his friends over to our home to continue their party and they can drink at our home.

After about 10-12 shots each in which I participated (my Wife wasn't drinking) me and the guys settled in the living room to play XBOX360 and my Wife went off to bed. I didn't hear the whole conversation but one of the guys says to one of the other guys, "I haven't had sex in two weeks" to which I quickly replied
"that's nothing, try 4-5 months" my Wife happened to hear that and comes into the room yelling "THAT'S IT! IT'S OVER" and runs off to the room.
I, knowing that she has a habit of locking me out of the room when she has a fit and me not wanting to be locked out of my room for a stupid mistake (in blurting out our personal business) ran to catch her before she locked the door. I did and forced my way in, she pulls out her cell phone and tells me she's going to call the cops, I quickly snatch the phone from her hand and then she pulls out my cell from her other pocket and I snatch that one too. She then picks up our son from his crib and takes off for the front door.
As I was following her to try and stop her, one of her brothers guy friends stops me at the door by grabbing me from both arms, we struggled and my TV hit's the floor where we end up too. I got away from him and ran out to catch my Wife, that guy comes out and stands in front of me again, this time I block his hand and slap him HARD across the face with a back hand. He get's all upset of coarse but got in the car with my Wife and child, along with the other friend and they left.
My Wife's brother told them to leave and that he would stayed behind with me. He then proceeds to apologies for his friend and told me that his sister and all the other women in his house (Mom and Grandma) are all freaking crazy. He knows me and knows that I am a good man and that I take a lot of isht from his sister that I don't deserve. The cops came but after they heard the story they knew that there was no real reason for them to be there and they just told us to keep it down and left.
Her brother and I proceeded to have a long deep conversation about how crazy these women are and how they don't give a isht about anyone else or their feeling.
After I sobered up, I drove him home to his Mom's house.
No sooner had I walked in, than the Mom and Grandma offer some unsolicited words, telling me that if we divorce that it doesn't mean that I won't get to see my child.
I went to the bed room where my Wife was and she automatically started with the I want a divorce thing. I told her that I don't want nor will I give her a divorce because I don't think that divorce should be the first thing you try when having problems in a marriage, I suggested trying to work things out even if it means seeking outside council. She wasn't having anything that I was suggesting and so I finally told her "well whatever, you do what you want but I'm taking our son home with me right now." She threatened to call the cops if I tried but I reminded her that if she did that I could have her arrested for kidnapping for taking out son out of our home against my will and without the legal right to do so. I know a lot about the law and also reminded her that I was assaulted by her brothers friend in my own house. She then just told me go a head then. I took my son home and went to bed since we hadn't slept all night, she came later and since we have been the same as before this weekends fight but a little worse off.

I don't want to loose my family and am now willing to cave in on her demands for me to quit pot, although it's legal for me to do it here in California and I still don't think that I should have to but I don't wish to loose my family over it and so I'm done.

Now, she has stopped wearing her wedding ring because she knows that this will hurt me but has been coming home every day after work and has not picked up and left yet.
Just comes home and treats me like garbage every night like she has been doing for the past 4-5 months.

I haven't been able to eat and my sleep is hard to come by and even harder to keep. I'm tired and hurt and scared and I don't know what to do to help my situation.

I don't want to loose my family and would appreciate and advice or stories of your own problems, how you chose to deal with them and how things came out for you.



Options:
1) Do nothing.
2) Seek divorce.
3) Get counseling.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Neuron]
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Man you guys are the best. Someone said that the advice that I am getting might not be what I wanted to hear but it is what I need to hear or something like that and this is so true.

She hasn't worn her wedding ring since sometime before our fight on Sat. So I can't say that this weekends events are to blame for that but that is another way that I think she is trying to hurt me.
She put a new picture on her yahoo e-mail profile and created a new avatar portraying her as a supermodel type.
My Wife is young and beautiful and just recently lost weight that she had gained after having our son and I knew that there is always a possibility that egos flare when people loose weight, especially women and they star thinking the isht, I was hoping that this wasn't the case but I think I was wrong.

She has changed her password so that I can not access her e-mail, we had given our passwords to each other because we have nothing to hide or at least we didn't have anything to hide. I went ahead and stopped wearing my wedding ring too and changed my password too, just to keep things as fair as possible.

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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That's it.  Kill her!

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Morican said:
Man you guys are the best. Someone said that the advice that I am getting might not be what I wanted to hear but it is what I need to hear or something like that and this is so true.

She hasn't worn her wedding ring since sometime before our fight on Sat. So I can't say that this weekends events are to blame for that but that is another way that I think she is trying to hurt me.
She put a new picture on her yahoo e-mail profile and created a new avatar portraying her as a supermodel type.
My Wife is young and beautiful and just recently lost weight that she had gained after having our son and I knew that there is always a possibility that egos flare when people loose weight, especially women and they star thinking the isht, I was hoping that this wasn't the case but I think I was wrong.

She has changed her password so that I can not access her e-mail, we had given our passwords to each other because we have nothing to hide or at least we didn't have anything to hide. I went ahead and stopped wearing my wedding ring too and changed my password too, just to keep things as fair as possible.



You need to confront her though man. Put her in her place. The longer you two play childish dames the worse it is going to get.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Cowgold]
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It seems like she's trying to get you to leave her and she's finally found a way to do it and make it seem like it's your fault.

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Rocker232]
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She is using your son against you, and just for that alone, you need to take drastic steps. If she isn't willing to do any sort of counseling, I think divorce is the only option. Fuck that. She knows you'd do anything for your son and holds it against you and I mean, in all honesty what is better, having two parents who are married but hate each other or two divorced parents who can both set good examples separated? Eventually you have to read the writing on the wall.

And quit smoking if divorce is the road you take, for reasons mentioned.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Chespirito]
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Chespirito said:
Stop smoking pot immediately.  If you go through a divorce settlement the issue of drugs will come up.  If you want to have any control over your sons direction, i.e where he lives etc... make sure to test clean.  Im not entirely clear on the law here but I am fairly certain they can fuck you hard if you start testing positive for drugs



That's a great point, but since he's in Cali and according to him, he is doing it legally, shouldn't that be a moot point in court?


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: gzuf]
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I know I'm 3 posts into being a member here, however I've been there. My opinion is confront her, and if that doesn't work. Divorce and fight for your son, otherwise it seems like she's the type to use it against you. I agree however it's a lot better then staying in a relationship with someone you hate over time. Your kid can pick up on that and resent you for it over time..


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Modified_Evolution]
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I am so sorry to hear about the troubles you are having, and you seem really genuine about doing what is best for your family. I just have to add that keeping your family together is not necessarily what is best for them. I grew up with parents that simply could not get along with each other but stayed together because it was "best for the family". Let me tell you that I would of much rather had two happy homes than one negative one. I think it is so important for children to have emotional stability in the household, be it one home or two. A negative relationship is not one to bring a child up in.
Good luck


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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I get the impression that your son is a whole lot more important to you than your wife and the relationship itself.
Apparently she wants out of it, but is too weak to actually do it and so she tries to get you to end it. Like the others have said, you need to get down to business with her and say "look, we both love the kid, so let's do this like reasonable grown up people or else it's going to be the kid suffering the most".
I have two kids myself and I can't imagine what it would be like being without them, but what they need most is the chance to grow up in a peaceful environment.
Holy shit I just realized I've been married for 11 years!


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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I say quit for now, and then try as hard as possible to get her to agree to marriage counseling.  In my opinion the only way to save this marriage to get into counseling.


It sounds like it will be a hell of a struggle to convince her to do it.  But maybe if you really do quit, at least for this initial period.  She will see that you are wanting to try and fix our marriage.

Once in counseling, hopefully she will be able to get some insight into how an adult relationship should have give and take on both sides.

It also sounds like she could benefit from some one on one therapy to deal with some of her own personal issues.


Good luck man, I know what it is like to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't like weed and disagrees with it's use.  Even though she knew I smoked even before we started dating, and now for some reason it's an issue.  Go figure.


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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Rocker232]
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You need to confront her though man. Put her in her place. The longer you two play childish dames the worse it is going to get.



I know, I'm just scared of pushing it since I am trying to keep my son in my house. But all signs are pointing towards divorce I guess I'm just like a guy holding his breath in the gas chamber and just trying to stretch out the last moment of my life before the inevitable.

I do agree with the posters that are telling me the harsh truth and I'm sorry if I don't automatically do that which I and most of you know that ultimately needs to be done and just be done with this marriage and move on but you don't understand how much coming home to my baby boy means to me right now. I guess it's because he's the only one that has not been treating me like dirt and can repair all the damage his psycho mother does to me with just an "I love you daddy"
You never know I may get lucky and she may get hit by a car or choke on a chicken bone or something and then it will be just me and my lil man against the world. One can dream huh...

Edited by Morican (10/21/09 05:15 PM)

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Re: Trying to save my marriage [Re: Morican]
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Nothing wrong with loving your kid, but you may want to get clean as another poster suggested in case she fights for custody. She'll most likely bring up the fact you smoke weed and if you fail a drug test you'll get fucked over.

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