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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Shad0w]
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Wow, calm down! 



hey i agreed with him. i am chill. i'm the chillenest. more chill than frosty


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Shad0w]
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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Shad0w]
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Shad0w said:
Some very general outlines.

http://www.magic-mushrooms.net/paddos/10__Rituals.html

A bit of historical tid-bits

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_history.shtml

a bit more specific

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/velada.html

Try those links out for some ideas.



Now THAT'S what I was waiting for, thanks!!!

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: kablamo]
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Now THAT'S what I was waiting for, thanks!!!



you DICK :wink: i totally said that stuff! those links all come from the original sources i was quoting anyway... (waves hand) i'm visible here right? :laugh:

i have mentioned the native american church, and if you are truely interested in researching rituals connected with what you're trying to do, you really (i said this in a previous post) need to check out their sight. they explain how they do their rituals, and it might be something you can build off of. the sweat lodges and peyote fires go back for so far, and i'm sure mushrooms can be implemented.
plus if you had googled John Marco Allegro, lots of these same links will be run into on the search...
shoulda put a link. no body on the shroomery seems to be able to highlight a name, copy/paste it to google, and search. if there's not a link, it's not gettin read...
eh, i'm lazy too what can i say. :wink: we all are.

and watch this video to see how, long long ago, some one did what you are doing, and we now call it "christianity"
this is a shroomery sponsor too.
The Pharmacratic inquisition (free version)

really, 1000 years from now maybe two, some one is going to force your followers to  stop eating mushrooms, they will replace it with wine and bread, and you will hide all this information in alchemical texts, but people will de evolve while thinking they're getting smarter, and forget what all the secret texts stood for... then they will fight wars over it.
:grin:


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: MileHiMycophiles]
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MileHiMycophiles said:
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Now THAT'S what I was waiting for, thanks!!!



you DICK :wink: i totally said that stuff! those links all come from the original sources i was quoting anyway... (waves hand) i'm visible here right? :laugh:

i have mentioned the native american church, and if you are truely interested in researching rituals connected with what you're trying to do, you really (i said this in a previous post) need to check out their sight. they explain how they do their rituals, and it might be something you can build off of. the sweat lodges and peyote fires go back for so far, and i'm sure mushrooms can be implemented.
plus if you had googled John Marco Allegro, lots of these same links will be run into on the search...
shoulda put a link. no body on the shroomery seems to be able to highlight a name, copy/paste it to google, and search. if there's not a link, it's not gettin read...
eh, i'm lazy too what can i say. :wink: we all are.

and watch this video to see how, long long ago, some one did what you are doing, and we now call it "christianity"
this is a shroomery sponsor too.
The Pharmacratic inquisition (free version)

really, 1000 years from now maybe two, some one is going to force your followers to  stop eating mushrooms, they will replace it with wine and bread, and you will hide all this information in alchemical texts, but people will de evolve while thinking they're getting smarter, and forget what all the secret texts stood for... then they will fight wars over it.
:grin:




Here's a high quality rip of Pharmacratic-Inquisition:

Pharmacratic Inquisition HQ

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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YOU my freind, are the shit. full quality rip... you rock so hard buddy. :thumbup:


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: kablamo]
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I want a religion with only one set belief: All beliefs are temporary.

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: The Centre]
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The problem w/ Allegro's analysis is its soley focused on Western Religions  - HE is VERY myopic.  None of the "Biblical" stories he cites are exclusive to the Bible or the "Middle East" .  Its bigger than that. 

Cute theory though. And I do LOVE throwing it out there in conversation from time to time.


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Radar]
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And contrary to Allegro's claims in his book and article from the 70's, "Christian" is not Sumerian for "Semen Smeared".  No mater how much I really really wish it were .


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Radar]
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Radar said:
And contrary to Allegro's claims in his book and article from the 70's, "Christian" is not Sumerian for "Semen Smeared".  No mater how much I really really wish it were .



What would it be then? :shocked:


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: solstice]
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solstice said:
Radar said:
And contrary to Allegro's claims in his book and article from the 70's, "Christian" is not Sumerian for "Semen Smeared".  No mater how much I really really wish it were .



What would it be then? :shocked:




Unfortunately its from the Greek  - essentially "Kristos"  which is the word for Mesiah culturally translated meaning "anointed" and NO not with semen.  Leaders were anointed with oil.


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Radar]
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Mushrooms In The Bible
Arguments that "manna" was a Psilocybe mushroom.
There are a great many people who would never consider the use of visionary plants to be a spiritual experience. These people believe that spiritual experiences must come directly from God and that the use of visionary plants goes against the teachings of the Bible. Contrary to this notion, the Bible never explicitly prohibits the use of visionary plants or potions. What you will find however, is
many curious references to a spiritual food sent down from heaven by God, called manna.
The Bible never tells us exactly what manna was and where it came from, but there are many Old Testament passages
which describe its physical qualities and conditions associated with its appearance. The Bible's first reference
to manna is in the Book of Exodus as the children of Israel are fleeing from Egypt and following Moses into the
wilderness. After six weeks of wandering, they began complaining to Moses that they are tired and hungry.

What happens next is truly extraordinary:

Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will vain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather
a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law or no (16:4). And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground (16: 14). And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This
is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.When I read this passage, I was struck by the fact that
manna easily fits the description of psilocybe mushrooms. For one thing magic mushrooms are small and round, and
since they sprout so rapidly they would seem to appear overnight, as if out of the sky. Also, anyone harvesting

them would immediately notice that they turn blue where torn and had no roots, giving more reason to believe that

the mushrooms were of celestial origin. Note that manna does not just fall from heaven, but instead it

is described as coming with the frost and dew, during the wet seasons. These are the precise weather conditions for mushrooms to thrive. And finally, manna is described as a bread. Although translations have obscured the intent of this passage, it seems to be description of how to find and identify manna and distinguish it from other non-psychoactive (or possibly lethal) mushrooms. Look for the
small round things which are like bread, come with the rain, and seem to have heavenly (bluish) coloring.
Psilocybe mushrooms also sprout in tiny pin heads which branch out in all directions and bear a resemblance to have frost.It is also interesting to note that Moses tells the children of Israel that manna comes directly from Heaven to test them on whether or not they will walk in God's law. Here is evidence that manna was endowed with unusual spiritual powers, like those of magic mushrooms. However,
manna does not automatically confer spiritual power. Instead, it serves as a test. Magic mushrooms would provide visionary experiences that would certainly test all who ingested them. Moses also said that the manna is literally
the "bread of the lord" which is remarkably similar to the literal Aztec name for psilocybe mushrooms, "flesh of the gods."

But how and why did the manna suddenly appear? Again
referring to the Bible, it is clear that the children of
Israel had journeyed to a land where there was dew in the
morning. As a large, nomadic tribe, the Israelites brought
a lot of cattle and sheep together in the area. That meant
a great deal of manure. The change of climate from the arid
lands of Egypt to the dewy climate of the wilderness
created ideal conditions for the propagation and spread of
psilocybe mushrooms in livestock dung.
In Exodus 12: 19-20, we find more references to manna.
And Moses said, Let no man leave of it till the morning
(16:19). Notwithstanding they harkened not unto Moses. but
some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred
worms and stank: and Moses was wroth with them(16.20). And
they gathered it every morning, every man according to his
eating. And when the sun was hot it melted...(16:21).
Anyone familiar with wild mushrooms knows that they go bad
very quickly and shrivel up under the heat of the sun,
exactly like manna.
It seems curious that Moses recognized the manna instantly
when the children of Israel showed it to him. He knew that
the manna would spoil if it was not picked and eaten in the
morning. But how did Moses know about manna? Perhaps Moses
knew about manna because he had already encountered the
mushroom at the time he saw the burning bush. Referring to
art earlier period of his life, we find that Moses:
...kept a flock of Jethro, his father in-law the priest of
Midiam: and he led the flock to the back side of the
desert, and came to the mountain of God , even to Horeb
(3:1). And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a
flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked,
and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed (3:2).
Had Moses eaten the sacred mushroom while camped at the
mountain? Here again we can only speculate that manure from
his flock and a change in climate had created the proper
environment for the mushrooms to fruit. Perhaps Moses
ingested the mushrooms purely by accident, or perhaps his
father in law, who we know was also a priest, had
introduced Moses to the mushroom. Archaeological evidence
of psychedelic mushroom use in Biblical times is well
documented by Terence McKenna, so it is reasonable to
conclude that Moses could have had some experience with
visionary mushrooms. (1)Later, in Numbers 11:6-9, manna is
again described in terms that are remarkably similar to
magic mushrooms:
But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all,
beside this manna, before our eyes. And the manna was as
coriander seed, and the color thereof as the color of
bdelliaum. And the people went about and gathered it, and
ground it in mills, or beat it in a mortar and baked it in
pans: and made cakes of it: and the taste of it was as the
taste of fresh oil. And when the dew fell upon the camp in
the night, the manna fell upon it.
Here we find manna described as before our eyes, having a
neutral taste like fresh oil, and once again, the Bible
mentions that manna appearing in the morning when the dew
fell. The Old Testament even tells us what manna looks
like, the manna was as coriander seed, and the color
thereof. When psilocybe mushrooms are dried, their range of
colors is virtually identical to dried coriander seed. In
both cases, with mushrooms and coriander seeds, we see
great similarities in the texture, color, tones, contrasts
and general visual appearance. The Children of Israel must
have given great thought about how to transmit the
appearance of manna so as to aid future generations who
might encounter it. However, mushrooms were a mystery to
the Hebrews and they were unable to predict where manna
could be found. Little did they realize that the manure
from their cattle was providing a means for the mushroom to
find its way into their mountain campsites.
Notice that the manna was ground in mills or beat it in a
mortar. That is odd because earlier we are told that manna
was quite delicate and, then the sun was hot, it melted.
However, if manna was the psilocybe mushroom, then it was
probably dried and then ground in order to be used for
baking. In fact, dried magic mushrooms are quite hard.
Grinding or crushing the dried mushroom and then baking
with the powder would insure that the delicate psychoactive
molecules retained their highest potency.
In the next passage, the Bible describes manna as having
light tan color and texture like a wafer, certainly an
accurate description of the color and texture of a dried
psilocybe mushroom. We also learn that the taste of manna
is no longer that of fresh oil but rather that of honey.
According to McKenna's research, honey has long been
used in Mexico as a preserve medium for psilocybin
containing mushrooms. Perhaps the children of Israel had
begun to mix honey with the manna to preserve its potency.
We find that Moses announced that manna must be kept for
future generations:
And the house of Israel called the name there of manna: and
it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was
like wafers made with honey (l6: 31). And Moses said, This
is the thing which the LORD commandeth. Fill an omer of it
to be kept for your generations: that they may see the
bread where with I have fed you in the wilderness, when I
brought you forth from the land of Egypt (16: 32).
Again we are told to fill an omer with manna but how much
is a omer? Isaac Asimov, in his book on the Bible,
concludes that an omer is about four liters, while the King
James version of the Bible estimates an omer to be six
pints. Psilocybe mushrooms are 92% water and only 8%
remains when they are dried. Also, fresh mushroom take up a
lot of space, due to their shape. So four liters of fresh
magic mushrooms would yield less than a tenth of a liter,
or about 1/4 cup of dried, powdered manna This corresponds
closely with the amount of magic mushrooms required for a
moderately strong dose when used for baking. This is
important because it clearly shows that not only does manna
have similar qualities to magic mushrooms, it also shows
that it was also used in the same quantity as mushrooms.
So manna matches psilocybe mushroom on both a qualitative and
quantitative analysis providing a compelling argument that
psilocybe mushrooms are in actuality "manna from Heaven."
Of course there are those who will remain eternally
skeptical, but keep in mind that the description of manna
given in the old testament bears an exact resemblance to
mushrooms. Even if psilocybe mushrooms are not manna the
similarities have indicated mushrooms as a possible
candidate, and they certainly fit the bill for a "spiritual
food'. Unfortunately, when the Children of Israel finally
reach the arid land of Canaan , the mysterious manna no
longer appeared.
And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of
the old corn of the land: neither had the children of
Israel manna any more.
The children of Israel must have been deeply disappointed
when they ran out of their sacred manna. We can see that
they went to great lengths to preserve their knowledge
about identifying and using manna The Old Testament
contains detailed information about the color, texture,
appearance, and relation- ship to dew, and the Old
Testament even explains how manna is to be ground and then
used in baking cakes. If the Israelites thought that manna
was a magical event caused by God would they have bothered
to note all the details about the identification of manna?
What about the manna that Moses said must be put away for
future generations? Turning to Hebrews 9:3&4 we find:
And after the second vail, the tabernacle which is called
the Holiest of all: Which had the golden censer and the Ark
of the Covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was
the golden pot that had manna...
Here we learn that manna was to be kept in the Holiest of
all, the Ark of the Covenant. Clearly, the manna was
something of great spiritual power since the Hebrews
treated it with such reverence and even went to such great
lengths to see that manna be given to future generations.
We must also consider the covenant that the Jewish people
held with God which was celebrated through the act of
circumcision. Why was this covenant with God associated
with the removal of foreskin from infant males. Why not a
tattoo, scar, article of clothing or jewelry?  Perhaps the
answer is that the circumcised penis bears a remarkable
resemblance to psilocybe mushroom just before the partial
veil has broken away from the mushroom caps and they are at
their greatest potency. If the Ark of the Covenant was
specifically built to store manna it is logical it was also
tied to manna through the ritual act of circumcision, which
gave each Jewish male his own mushroom-like penis.
The discovery that manna was (and is) psilocybe mushrooms
is not simply an issue of theological or academic debate.
So great was the power conferred by manna, that this small
band of wandering slaves were able to defeat all enemies
who crossed their path even when confronted by armies that
were bigger and better equipped. Jews, Christians and
Moslems can all trace their roots to the children of Israel who ate manna for forty years and saw themselves as God's
chosen people. Again, we are reminded of McKenna"s thesis
that those who ate psilocybe mushrooms had a survival
advantage due to better visual acuity, heightened senses,
better hunting skills, and for the children of Israel ,
better warrior skills. Manna gave the Hebrews their own
covenant with God one that is even recognized today by
Christians who believe that the Jews have already earned a
special place as the Chosen People. Bible scholar Grant R.
Jeffrey explains:
"The covenant which God made with Abraham and the kingdom
promises to David, Solomon and all the prophets will be
finally realized in the Mellennial Kingdom ... the Lord
promised a new covenant with Ishmael in which He would give
them a new heart, forgiveness of sin, and the infilling of
the Spirit to the renewed nation. This promised kingdom
will provide the fulfillment of all the hopes and dreams of
the Chosen People forever".
What is the new covenant? It is the rediscovery of manna.
Across the gulf of thousands of years the Bible transmits
and accurate and detailed description of manna waiting for
the time when the message can be decoded and manna can
again fulfill its role as acelestial messenger. Manna was
the basis of the Jewish covenant with God. Indeed, it is
this covenant and the use of manna which has set the Jews
apart as the Chosen People. The Bible is not the message,
it only points the way. Manna is the holy sacrament that
provides the means for God to "prove them, whether they
will walk in my law, or not."
If manna is indeed the psilocybin mushroom, then this means
that the Koran, Bible, and Torah were all inspired by
psychedelically induced visions. The very foundations upon
which these religions rest were derived from the mushroom
experience. Moses and the children of Israel used the
mushrooms as true sacraments to communicate with a Higher
Power, also known as Allah, God and Yahweh. The discovery
that manna is real and is available to us today means that
like children of Israel we too can use manna to experience
the joy, wisdom and spiritual renewal of the Chosen
People.

http://www.mushroomsfmrc.com/gpage5.html

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Getafixx]
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Can you imagine a diet consisting of mostly mushrooms???  I think it should be someones duty to experiment with this  - maybe 40 days and 40 nights of nothing but psychedelic mushrooms.  Maybe make it a requirement before becoming a moderator.


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Radar]
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Radar said:
Can you imagine a diet consisting of mostly mushrooms???  I think it should be someones duty to experiment with this  - maybe 40 days and 40 nights of nothing but psychedelic mushrooms.  Maybe make it a requirement before becoming a moderator.



:lolsy: Do we really need another Moses?


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: Shad0w]
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OP..  you should make the first Un-religion

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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: smokintheherb]
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smokintheherb said:
OP..  you should make the first Un-religion



That would be called Taoism.

Read the Chuang Tzu.  Apparently he was a student of Lao Tzu, the father of Taoism.  It's the best book ever written.  Chuang Tzu would argue that it's all nonsense, that's why he is awesome.

Quote:
Once upon a time in ancient China, there was a notorious bandit by the name of Zhi who led a group of outlaws. Together, they committed many crimes while evading the authorities.

One day, after another successful heist, they took a break in their hideout, drinking and talking among themselves. Suddenly, a question occurred to one of the outlaws, a young man. He turned to Zhi and asked: "Hey boss, there's something I can't figure out. Why are you the leader? I mean, you're a powerful guy, but some of us are pretty powerful too. Why is it that you lead and we follow? What is your secret?"

The men laughed at this question, but Zhi answered seriously: "It is actually very simple. I follow the principles of being a bandit."

The young man looked confused. "Principles? Boss, we got no principles. That's why we're bandits!"

"Ah, that is where you are wrong." Zhi smiled his crooked smile: "Not only do we have principles, but we practice the virtues taught by the sages."

The young man thought Zhi had to be joking. "Virtues? Boss, the sages are the highest of the high, while we are the lowest of the low. We can't possibly have anything to do with their virtues!"

The men were about to laugh again, but Zhi silenced them with a glare: "Most people think such things as virtues are only for the good, but they are not. They are actually quite harmful to people in general. That is why we have them too. In fact, there are five main virtues in the life of a bandit."

"Five?" The young man looked at his comrades, but they were just as puzzled as he was. Together, they turned to Zhi for his explanation.

Zhi counted them off the fingers of one hand: "A bandit has to be able to figure out where people hide their treasures. This is the virtue of insight, being able to see what others cannot.

"A bandit has to look at a situation and accurately gauge his chance of success. This is the virtue of clarity, the ability to think and calculate clearly.

"A bandit is willing to be the first to go into a heavily guarded mansion. This is the virtue of courage, leading the way with bravery and strength.

"A bandit is also willing to be the last to leave, covering everyone's exit. This is the virtue of honor, sacrificing one's safety to protect one's fellows.

"Lastly, when we are all back here in the lair, I give all of you an equal share of the loot. This is the virtue of fairness – my being benevolent with you, my followers.

"Together, these five virtues are the Tao of the bandit. If you do not have all five, it will be impossible for you to become a great bandit. This is my secret."

All the men thought hard about what Zhi said, but no one could detect any flaws in his reasoning. Finally, the young man spoke again: "Boss, you also said virtues were harmful to people. What did you mean by that?"

"Think about it," Zhi finished his wine. "A good person has to follow the virtues taught by the sages to be the best good person he can be. Bad guys like us also have to follow the virtues taught by the sages to be the best bad guys we can be. Right?"

The men nodded, and the young man agreed: "Yes, that makes sense."

"Look at the world," Zhi continued. "Most people want more than they have, and if they can get away with taking from others, they will. A lot of them don't only because they know they cannot get away with it. This means they are basically poor bandits who have failed to practice the virtues of the sages. Still with me?"

The young man hesitated, then nodded: "I guess I never thought of it that way."

"Men, there is no escaping the concluson," Zhi grinned in triumph. "If everyone follows what the sages teach, then there will be many more bandits out there who excel at robbing and stealing from others like me! Now can you see why the virtues are actually more harmful than beneficial?"

The men were stunned by this realization. The young man's mouth hung open. And then it was Zhi's turn to laugh.



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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: kablamo]
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brilliant.

it's funny to me that those eastern "religions" ALL are religions.... they all have temples/churches, holy books, and monks.

yet buddhas death wish was that we all never follow a church. worship a God, and join a cult.
as were the wishes of other great eastern masters.
wasn't it jesus who came to stop the old way and bring a new?

the masters are always great. but as another master, ghandi, said, "i like your christ, but you can keep your christians."

i feel this way about every great master and every great religion.
fuck the religion. i'll learn my own way from the master. but these are MY feet, and this IS MY path. others can only point and gesture. i alone can walk it.

what we need to fight for is first amendmant rights in america. FULL TRUE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. if i get caught with mushrooms and go to court, i should be able to walk on the statement that the were spiritual.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



the fucked up thing is... if you read any of our law making history, we really don't have any of those rights. we should, but tell that to the thousands that have been arrested for speaking out against wars and for standing on street corners waiting for the president to pass and just being in the wrong area.

anyway, i'm looking up a lawyer to make statment of belief. in it i will include entheogen use and not much else. i will list every natural earth occuring substance  that will be used. i will then get this notarized, and make several copies, one of which will go to the lawyer, one to the governors office and one to DC. i will keep one too, and this will make what i believe "established" now, this may not keep me out of jail, but it is a positive step in the right direction, and us as americans, need to stand up for ours rights, ever if it mean sacrifice. i think we have forgotten that. we have become the land of the sheep and the home of the slaves.


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Re: I am making a mushroom religion. [Re: kablamo]
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kablamo said:
How could you experience them and then not want to make it your religion?

I want a personal religion, a meditative ritual at the center of which is the mushroom sacrament.

I want candles, goofy robes, incense, a gong, an altar, and some holy texts to read from. 
Also drums. I want a drum!

This is going to be my own religion, that I practice alone, myself and the universe.

I think it's fun to do mysterious things, and also, I think it's a great way to maintain respect for the sacrament.

I'm thinking of having the ritual include trying to bring back an image, a piece of poetry, and a sound (painting, writing, and drumming.)
My last session gave me the phrase "To you and through you and with you are willing to."

Does anyone do anything similar?

Has anyone heard of any modern (most likely neopagan it seems) religions that utilize mushrooms as their sacrament?  I'd love to hear some more ideas on the construction of a psilocybin centered religion.



this sounds like the time some1 on ravelinks attempted to promote a "rave church"....

lololol.... shrooms are shrooms, acid is acid, weed is weed. stop trying to make religions outta all this stuff. ur not the only one kiddo. druggies have been trying to do this stuff for years. quit all ready.

the closest ppl can come to making a religion outta any kind of drug is a psyhonaut.

u cant make a mind altering religion out of mind altering substances bc then ur entire religion will be completely redundant bc it will be based off mild altering experiences and "rules and laws" and stuff, and if those laws are born from mind altering experiences, then the laws themselve will be able to be reproduced too much altering them, thus making your church defective. unless you want to have a religion based solely on ingest shrooms and having a good time and thats it?

but that doesnt sound like much of a religion.


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It is quite amusing, i bet he will write a book on it and in years down the road people will believe it completely so it must be true..... lol about that, religion is BS imo.

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The last two guys obviously didn't read the whole thread before providing us with their " insights ". This is akin to turning your tongue 7 times before you speak...

:facepalm:


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