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Should the people overtake the government
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What do you think? There's way more of us then there is of them.


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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Shroomism]
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Then there would spontaneously arise a system of government among the people who took over. History has shown this trend repeatedly.

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Arden]
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yeah, i figure it is about time for the old switcheroo

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Arden]
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And we'd do it right this time!

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Islandminded]
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Lol , i twould be pretty fun.

the government is pathetic

i hate politics

it's so fucking disastrous/pathetic/horrible

and other things.

it really is a fucking joke.

really


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

Edited by pfxtc (08/20/09 12:10 AM)

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Islandminded]
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the government is a hungry monster, so the only true way to overtake government is to stop feeding it and walk away. insurrection via non-participation rejects the legitimacy of the state.

people just need to walk away from using government institutions and being involved in them in any way

i have studied anarchy and i am convinced the only way people can overcome government is through enlightenment and education. wild animals/men cannot live without authority. everybody is going to have to become like a intellectual or a guru before sustainable anarchy is possible, when everyone can be their own authority over themselves

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: pfxtc]
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the government is a self serving business

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
What do you think? There's way more of us then there is of them.


A. there's no one demographic with close to the size or power to accomplish this.

B. it would just make things worse.

I suggest a Constitutional Congress if that's what you want.


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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said:
Lol , i twould be pretty fun.

the government is pathetic

i hate politics

it's so fucking disastrous/pathetic/horrible

and other things.

it really is a fucking joke.

really


Life is a joke in and of itself.

Existence is a joke.

Anyone else here fail to see the punchline though? :kingcrankey:

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: feifen]
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why is life and existence a joke?


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Ferris]
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Personally, I don't think anyone or any group of government is in control. This beast we are all pulsating within is way too big and complicated to be controlled. Even the most intense of psychedelic experiences should show us that we are not in control.

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Ferris]
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i think it would be amazing to have a bunch of enlightened anarchists claim a nation-state somewhere and just have a big commune where they worked on cutting edge exploration into drugs and arts and human emotion and experience. it would probably attract people like timothy leary's big estates or far east gurus, etc.

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Arden]
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Arden said:
Personally, I don't think anyone or any group of government is in control. This beast we are all pulsating within is way too big and complicated to be controlled. Even the most intense of psychedelic experiences should show us that we are not in control.


Personal control isn't necessary or possible in government.  That's what delegation of powers is for.


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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: feifen]
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if i'm not mistaken, the US has had the longest standing government without having gone through a reform/upheaval.  to me that says it's time for change.  it was made originally with good intentions and a high potential for change and adaptation to modern times, but i would insist that it has developed in ways that our forefathers would not have approved of.

the modern government takes power away from the many and gives it to the few (especially executives of large companies).  in the 1800s, most americans had lots of privacy and freedom (for example, could smoke weed if they wanted to, weren't bothered by police, weren't being watched all the time).  in the 1800's, most americans were self-employed.  now, virtually no one is self employed and we live in a country where basic liberties such as privacy and drug use do not exist. 

the gov't should not be a "parental" figure.  that is, telling us what is OK and not OK to put in our bodies.  telling us what experiences are OK and not OK to have. 

unfortunately, a large portion of the citizens of the US eat that parental shit up.  the propaganda is too strong.  individuals have very little power in modern times to do anything about it. 

the argument that there's more of us than there are of them is not really very accurate.  there are PLENTY of people that would resist any change or threat to our current government system with lethal force.

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Shroomism]
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Theoretically, we are the government.  The only thing that prevents that from being true in practice is all the corporate influence.  So if we really want progress, we have to overtake the corporations.


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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Theoretically, we are the government.  The only thing that prevents that from being true in practice is all the corporate influence.  So if we really want progress, we have to overtake the corporations.


The Man is after you.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

Edited by pfxtc (08/20/09 12:33 AM)

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Silversoul]
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yes!!!!! Now is the time. However i do not think it will ever happen.
We now have a country full of pussys! :frown:

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Re: Should the people overtake the government [Re: Ferris]
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you don't want slaves?  :whatwhat:

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