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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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If you can't post without flaming in here, don't post at all.

-Whiskey

I had some good advice in my post, There was no reason to edit all out.

It doesn't matter anyway. It's all luck of the draw. You may or may not suffer the oppresion of your choices. We're all slaves and property of the united states anyway. Only the slaves that abide the laws are given perks like a false sense of freedom.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Also, having kids has almost nothing to do with having any knowledge on the subject, and I dislike people that believe stuff like that, especially considering how many parents there are out there that have no clue about what healthy parenting is.

That's her point...this thread was never supposed to be about healthy choices. It was supposed to be about the legal ramifications of divulging information to my doctor, and what repercussions would be likely if I did.

I think that having children, and having been through the medical system, would lend itself perfectly to the kind of discussion this was supposed to be. It was just that kind of knowledge that gldfshfn posted that I was looking for.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: trendal]
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What I Was saying, is Deny, Deny, Deny.....

If you know they will detect drugs in the blood test, tell them up front that you were at a party and use the second hand smoke excuse, or the pot laced browney excuse.

Also, There used to be this clause called "client/patient confidentiality". But, seeing how america is becoming the new Acient Egypt, I cannot ask you to rely on this alone.

The baby is very resiliant in the first weeks of the first trimester. Boozing and drugging is not likely to hinder development. Stress has more effect on a fetus in this stage than drugs or alcohol.

Also, not all drugs can pass through the blood to the fetus. Read up on which drugs can or can't.

If she still want's to smoke mj while she's prego, just know that I've known lots of mothers who smoked both mj and cigs while pregnant with no ill side effects.

That's not to say that there are none, however, I did know a pregnant mother who refused to pump her own gas because she felt the gasoline fumes were harmful to her baby....

I also knew a mother who refused to eat any foods that she did not prepare herself while she was pregnant, because of fear of harming her baby.

I knew of a mother who refused to work in her second trimester because she feared the stress from her job would cause her to have another miscarriage...

You see where this is leading...

Yes, I understand your question.. My advice, is to call a few obgyn's anonymously and tell them your situation... Tell them that you guys just got back from a trip to amsterdam and you smoked out the whole time you were there and have crazy sex, and realized you were prego when you got back home and ask if you will go to jail...

or simply ask what you want... Get at least 3 opinions, then go from there.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Thanks man! :smile:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: trendal]
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Yes mt, I was snide... forgive me. But in all honesty, until you have kids there are some things you cannot possibly perceive, though I do respect your opinion.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: trendal]
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Isn't it easier to just not take a chance with a child's development because the mother prefers to get high? In this way you know it will have a better chance of turning out healthy. That is just common sense. This whole thread is about trying to make a case for someone still being able to pursue their recreational choices while pregnant. That is pretty frivolous in the light of what is at stake.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

Edited by Huehuecoyotl (08/07/09 07:28 PM)

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I've known lots of mothers who smoked both mj and cigs while pregnant with no ill side effects.


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If you're pregnant and still hooked on cigarettes, here's another reason to quit - smoking may increase your baby's risk of developing autism.
Researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that pregnant women who smoke regularly are 40 percent more likely to have autistic kids.


That is from the New York Post, but it is common knowledge.

My mother smoked while pregnant and I show strong very strong symptoms of Aspergers Disorder which is a type of autism. This caused me no end of trouble early in life.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Just wait until the baby is born.....  If she needs pot to get through the pregnancy, what will she need to raise the child??? I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to wish you well on this.  Just like no one is going to wish you well on drinking or smoking while pregnant.  It just doesn't make sense.

PS- I am the mother of three smart, healthy and independent, grown children.


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous said:
If you can't post without flaming in here, don't post at all.

-Whiskey

I had some good advice in my post, There was no reason to edit all out.

It doesn't matter anyway. It's all luck of the draw. You may or may not suffer the oppresion of your choices. We're all slaves and property of the united states anyway. Only the slaves that abide the laws are given perks like a false sense of freedom.


Oh here we go with the civil rights bullshit again.

The US constitution has nothing to do with what the moderators and administrators decide put up with on an internet message board. The internet is not American, BTW.

Your post was just plain fucking rude. If you want to make the points you were trying to make, minus the flames, go ahead. If you flame, your post will be deleted and you will be banned.

Here are the rules to this forum, it case you are interested in continuing to post here:

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Please take a look at our Forum Guidelines for some general use rules pertaining to how one should behave in this forum.  It should go without saying that we must take caution in how we react to other's deep inner emotions.  Tactless, careless, and otherwise negative behavior will not be tolerated in this forum.  This forum is designed to help improve our lives, and negativity certainly won't help many reach their desired comfort level.  So keep that in mind and post thoughtfully and respectfully.



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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: CherryBom]
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I don't have any kids myself, but the 90% of my peer group who do tell me that as soon as you discover you're pregnant, your needs cease to matter.  You are now completely responsible for this itty bitty, helpless, human being in a giant world full of good and bad.

Looks like you were right :wink:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Isn't it easier to just not take a chance with a child's development because the mother prefers to get high?

:rolleyes:

It was never about her preferring to "get high". She just wants something to get over the morning sickness. Who am I to refuse her that? I never said she would be getting high every day all day - in fact I said quite the opposite!

Anyway, we've both decide to give up herb for the remainder of the pregnancy.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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WhiskeyClone said:
Anonymous said:
If you can't post without flaming in here, don't post at all.

-Whiskey

I had some good advice in my post, There was no reason to edit all out.

It doesn't matter anyway. It's all luck of the draw. You may or may not suffer the oppresion of your choices. We're all slaves and property of the united states anyway. Only the slaves that abide the laws are given perks like a false sense of freedom.


Oh here we go with the civil rights bullshit again.

The US constitution has nothing to do with what the moderators and administrators decide put up with on an internet message board. The internet is not American, BTW.

Your post was just plain fucking rude. If you want to make the points you were trying to make, minus the flames, go ahead. If you flame, your post will be deleted and you will be banned.

Here are the rules to this forum, it case you are interested in continuing to post here:

Quote:
Please take a look at our Forum Guidelines for some general use rules pertaining to how one should behave in this forum.  It should go without saying that we must take caution in how we react to other's deep inner emotions.  Tactless, careless, and otherwise negative behavior will not be tolerated in this forum.  This forum is designed to help improve our lives, and negativity certainly won't help many reach their desired comfort level.  So keep that in mind and post thoughtfully and respectfully.




Get over yourself, the civil rights comment wasnt directed towards you, it was directed towards the fact that the state can take a parents child away from them if they deem it necessary.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Fraggin]
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If you want to utilize the anonymous posting feature of the forum, intended for people who have qualms about having their identity known whilst talking about sensitive topics, to make flames without anyone knowing who you are, its generally a good idea to later remember to reply anonymously so you don't reveal yourself.
:haha:

Maybe he was just following in your image though, Trendal. :tongue:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: fireworks_god]
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By the way Trendal, congratulations, and remember: Quantum mechanics is not a bed-time story. :grin:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: fireworks_god]
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estupido. freedom=free, no?

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: trendal]
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18 years of stress and no money await!  :lol:  I kid, I kid!

Congratulations, Trendal!

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Fraggin]
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Oh I thought you were pulling the old "The Man is Keeping Me Down" bit.


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

:heartpump:

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Quantum mechanics is not a bed-time story

Aww! But that was my favorite one!!! :blush:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Just curious.. I find it interesting that, in spite of society suggesting that children should only happen when you are married, you and your girlfriend have not tied the knot but have chosen to get pregnant.  What gives?  Do you not believe in marriage?

I'm just curious.

RandalFlagg said:
18 years of stress and no money await!  :lol:  I kid, I kid!

Congratulations, Trendal!


YEah of course you're joking!  It's actually 24+ years!! 

:persistence:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Society]
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What gives?  Do you not believe in marriage?

We do, and plan on getting married down the road. Neither of us is much of a money saver, and we don't relish the cost involved in getting married. We have taken a look at our financial situation and decided that while we couldn't afford a marriage right now, we can afford to have a child!

Either we get married now, go into debt because of it, and not have any money for the kid for at least a few years...or we have the kid now and worry about the marriage later!


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