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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: citricacidx]
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citricacidx said:
i really wish i could find a list of what's in hookahs. I honestly think they're less harmful than cigarettes but not by much. But that's just mein opinion, I have no evidence to support that claim.


im with you on that.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Im not the one making ridiculous statements.

Why are you all under the impression that hookah tobacco is additive free?


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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You're both being ridiculous.

There's a negligible amount of evidence to back up either side.
You're smoking tobacco, it's not healthy. End of story.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Im not the one making ridiculous statements.

Why are you all under the impression that hookah tobacco does not have hundreds of additives in it?


No one said it didnt, i just think it was a little out of line for you to state your opinion(which i do respect) as total fact, espically considering

Number 1: Your source is NY Times

and

Number 2: Even your "source" isint, definitve.


But of course, its total fact...:whatever:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


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Edited by Nuggetpouch (07/29/09 05:28 PM)

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
You're both being ridiculous.

There's a negligible amount of evidence to back up either side.
You're smoking tobacco, it's not healthy. End of story.


Very true


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Why am I a kingtard?


Because you support banning things and taking away people's right to choose.  If you dont want them marketing to kids then advocate against that.  You support adding yet another substance on the list of those prohibited and infringing on my rights yet again just because you believe some bull about 'the children'.  You want to ban flavor?  I say fuck you - Ill will illegally import it and spite the law every chance I get.  The more you try to tighten your grip on the population the more will slip thru your fingers.  You cannot and will not win.

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thick and harsh and most likely chop full of additives.

and your theory on common sence defines the validity of your claim?


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Why am I a kingtard?


Because you support banning things and taking away people's right to choose.  If you dont want them marketing to kids then advocate against that.  You support adding yet another substance on the list of those prohibited and infringing on my rights yet again just because you believe some bull about 'the children'.  You want to ban flavor?  I say fuck you - Ill will illegally import it and spite the law every chance I get.  The more you try to tighten your grip on the population the more will slip thru your fingers.  You cannot and will not win.


Quickly we must band together to fight this unjustice...:mob:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: DieCommie]
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Dude, how many people do you know that smoked these things?

The reason cigarette smokers don't smoke them is because they SUCK. They are just a marketing ploy and a way to make money.


It's not ILLEGAL to posses these products. It's just that companies don't get to sell them and steal money right out of our wallets anymore.

I agree with you that prohibition is for the birds


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Edited by Nuggetpouch (07/29/09 05:33 PM)

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
DeathCompany said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.



Lol yeahhhhhhh thats bullshit :whatever:

People consider it healthier because shisha does not contain all the other chemicals/carcinogens in a common cigarette. 


I don't see the words "natural" or "organic" ANYWHERE on the shisha at my local stores. What makes you think theres not a shit load of additives in it?

Don't bullshit the bullshitter.



They don't put "all natural" on the label of shisha because they don't ever add chemicals in the first place.You will not find chemicals added to shisha anywhere.They put "all natural" on cigarette packages because every cigarette has chemicals unless of course it is natural. The reason they add those extra chemicals is to get it to burn properly and keep burning properly. When you smoke shisha the coals keep it going on its own.


:foreheadslap:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Dude, how many people do you know that smoked these things?

The reason cigarette smokers don't smoke them is because they SUCK. They are just a marketing ploy and a way to make money.


It's not ILLEGAL to posses these products. It's just that companies don't get to sell them and steal money right out of our wallets anymore.


:rofl2:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


You're are a genius in the logic department.

The hookahs I smoke are significantly smoother than any other substance I smoked, so I guess my bowl packs, my roommate's bowl packs, and the hookah bar's bowl packs have less additives.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Psilo_Subliminal said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Dude, how many people do you know that smoked these things?

The reason cigarette smokers don't smoke them is because they SUCK. They are just a marketing ploy and a way to make money.


It's not ILLEGAL to posses these products. It's just that companies don't get to sell them and steal money right out of our wallets anymore.


:rofl2:


I don't see why you guys are bitching about this in the first place.

You CAN still go buy regular cigarettes and then go buy tobacco flavor drops and go from there.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


You're are a genius in the logic department.

The hookahs I smoke are significantly smoother than any other substance I smoked, so I guess my bowl packs, my roommate's bowl packs, and the hookah bar's bowl packs have less additives.


They are smoother because the smoke is filtered through water :kingtard:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Read my post you will se you are wrong. They do not add chemicals to shisha.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


You're are a genius in the logic department.

The hookahs I smoke are significantly smoother than any other substance I smoked, so I guess my bowl packs, my roommate's bowl packs, and the hookah bar's bowl packs have less additives.


yay i get to post this gramelin again!

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OWNED!


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
jewunit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


You're are a genius in the logic department.

The hookahs I smoke are significantly smoother than any other substance I smoked, so I guess my bowl packs, my roommate's bowl packs, and the hookah bar's bowl packs have less additives.


They are smoother because the smoke is filtered through water :kingtard:


Excellent job contradicting your self in your own quote....:kingtard:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: DeathCompany]
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DeathCompany said:
Read my post you will se you are wrong. They do not add chemicals to shisha.


I read your post. Appreciate the input.

I could be wrong about the additive thing.

Perhaps taking a look at the statistics of smoking-related illnesses in areas where hookas are more popular might also be revealing.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Psilo_Subliminal said:
Nuggetpouch said:
jewunit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Never said it was total fact. It's just common sense. Hookah tobacco is thicker, harsher, and most likely chop full of additives.


You're are a genius in the logic department.

The hookahs I smoke are significantly smoother than any other substance I smoked, so I guess my bowl packs, my roommate's bowl packs, and the hookah bar's bowl packs have less additives.


They are smoother because the smoke is filtered through water :kingtard:


Excellent job contradicting your self in your own quote....:kingtard:


How did I contradict myself? The water doesn't make the smoke much safer, it just makes it taste smoother.


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Edited by Nuggetpouch (07/29/09 05:40 PM)

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