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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
im glad they banned em.


:kingtard:

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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i think your info is wrong guys. My understading is that this includes all flavored tobacco products...blunts and wraps included, its also my assumption that menthol cigs are being targeted as well. None of this is solid fact but this is what ive heard down here in FLA, tho i hope im completely wrong...

but hookahs from wat ive heard are not under effect


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: DieCommie]
    #10762472 -

Qubit said:
Nuggetpouch said:
im glad they banned em.


:kingtard:


Why am I a kingtard?

Because I'm happy that a miserable product that causes cancer and is marketed towards children has been removed from the market?

Do you have any idea how much it costs to manufacture a cigarette? The only reason flavored cigarettes existed was for marketing and corporate profit. they also fool people into wasting money on a shitty product.

Do you work for Phillip Morris son?


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
    #10762475 -

menthols are actually excluded. I read someone of an African American rights group wanting menthols to be banned because a disproportionate number of their community smokes them with the idea that they're less harmful than regular cigarettes (due to the minty flavor???)


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10762476 -

Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.


Source? 

Im betting you dont have one...


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10762479 -

its not marketed towards children dude
its just flavor


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Psilo_Subliminal said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.


Source? 

Im betting you dont have one...


There really aren't any sources one way or the other at this point. It's a pretty uncharted topic but I'm willing to bet smoking shisha isn't significantly healthier than smoking cigarettes.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Coaster]
    #10762493 -

Coaster said:
its not marketed towards children dude
its just flavor


i dont think it was theyre main goal, but im confident it played a part.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Coaster]
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my grampa's middleton's cherry flavored pipe tobacco?

marketed to children?

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10762501 -

Dude they look packages of candy. How can you say there not market for children?

You honestly believe that the tobacco conglomerates are not thinking about how to get the future generations hooked early for profit in the years to come?

Oh no, there all just a bunch of honest Joes, theres no way they want kids to smoke.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Psilo_Subliminal said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.


Source? 

Im betting you dont have one...


There really aren't any sources one way or the other at this point. It's a pretty uncharted topic but I'm willing to bet smoking shisha isn't significantly healthier than smoking cigarettes.

Im pretty sure there are...infact give me just one second....


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Psilo_Subliminal said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

" The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are. "

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.


Source? 

Im betting you dont have one...



what are you willing to bet?

"Even though it's coming through the water and feeling smoother, studies show the levels of toxic compounds are at least as high, if not higher, than cigarettes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/19/education/19hookah.html


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Edited by Nuggetpouch (07/29/09 05:15 PM)

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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Coaster]
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Auto-Summary
Hookah smoking, while marketed differently, contains numerous toxic additives similar to cigarettes. The US government has approved 599 additives for cigarettes, many of which are toxic and carcinogenic. Hookah smoke contains many of these same chemicals, and the act of smoking more in a session makes it potentially more harmful.

it doesn't matter if it's specifically marketed to children, they say the flavoring is to lure children in.

on another note, Hookahs are similar to cigarettes in the physical effects. You smoke more in a hookah session, but you don't hookah every 5-10 minutes, or even every week for that matter. Plus shisha doesn't have those other things added to cigarettes.

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The list of 599 additives approved by the US Government for use in the manufacture of cigarettes is something every smoker should see. Submitted by the five major American cigarette companies to the Dept. of Health and Human Services in April of 1994, this list of ingredients had long been kept a secret.

Tobacco companies reporting this information were:

      American Tobacco Company
      Brown and Williamson
      Liggett Group, Inc.
      Philip Morris Inc.
      R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

While these ingredients are approved as additives for foods, they were not tested by burning them, and it is the burning of many of these substances which changes their properties, often for the worse. Over 4000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette, many of which are toxic and/or carcinogenic. Carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide and ammonia are all present in cigarette smoke. Forty-three known carcinogens are in mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, or both.

It's chilling to think about not only how smokers poison themselves, but what others are exposed to by breathing in the secondhand smoke. The next time you're missing your old buddy, the cigarette, take a good long look at this list and see them for what they are: a delivery system for toxic chemicals and carcinogens.

Cigarettes offer people only a multitude of smoking-related diseases and ultimately death.

The List of 599 Additives in Cigarettes

    * Acetanisole
    * Acetic Acid
    * Acetoin
    * Acetophenone
    * 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
    * 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
    * 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
    * Acetylpyrazine
    * 2-Acetylpyridine
    * 3-Acetylpyridine
    * 2-Acetylthiazole
    * Aconitic Acid
    * dl-Alanine
    * Alfalfa Extract
    * Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
    * Allyl Hexanoate
    * Allyl Ionone
    * Almond Bitter Oil
    * Ambergris Tincture
    * Ammonia
    * Ammonium Bicarbonate
    * Ammonium Hydroxide
    * Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
    * Ammonium Sulfide
    * Amyl Alcohol
    * Amyl Butyrate
    * Amyl Formate
    * Amyl Octanoate
    * alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
    * Amyris Oil
    * trans-Anethole
    * Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
    * Anise
    * Anise Star, Extract and Oils
    * Anisyl Acetate
    * Anisyl Alcohol
    * Anisyl Formate
    * Anisyl Phenylacetate
    * Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
    * Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
    * 1-Arginine
    * Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
    * Ascorbic Acid
    * 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
    * 1-Aspartic Acid
    * Balsam Peru and Oil
    * Basil Oil
    * Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
    * Beeswax White
    * Beet Juice Concentrate
    * Benzaldehyde
    * Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
    * Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
    * Benzoin Resin
    * Benzophenone
    * Benzyl Alcohol
    * Benzyl Benzoate
    * Benzyl Butyrate
    * Benzyl Cinnamate
    * Benzyl Propionate
    * Benzyl Salicylate
    * Bergamot Oil
    * Bisabolene
    * Black Currant Buds Absolute
    * Borneol
    * Bornyl Acetate
    * Buchu Leaf Oil
    * 1,3-Butanediol
    * 2,3-Butanedione
    * 1-Butanol
    * 2-Butanone
    * 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
    * Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
    * Butyl Acetate
    * Butyl Butyrate
    * Butyl Butyryl Lactate
    * Butyl Isovalerate
    * Butyl Phenylacetate
    * Butyl Undecylenate
    * 3-Butylidenephthalide
    * Butyric Acid]
    * Cadinene
    * Caffeine
    * Calcium Carbonate
    * Camphene
    * Cananga Oil
    * Capsicum Oleoresin
    * Caramel Color
    * Caraway Oil
    * Carbon Dioxide
    * Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
    * Carob Bean and Extract
    * beta-Carotene
    * Carrot Oil
    * Carvacrol
    * 4-Carvomenthenol
    * 1-Carvone
    * beta-Caryophyllene
    * beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
    * Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
    * Cassia Bark Oil
    * Cassie Absolute and Oil
    * Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
    * Cedar Leaf Oil
    * Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
    * Cedrol
    * Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
    * Cellulose Fiber
    * Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
    * Chicory Extract
    * Chocolate
    * Cinnamaldehyde
    * Cinnamic Acid
    * Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
    * Cinnamyl Acetate
    * Cinnamyl Alcohol
    * Cinnamyl Cinnamate
    * Cinnamyl Isovalerate
    * Cinnamyl Propionate
    * Citral
    * Citric Acid
    * Citronella Oil
    * dl-Citronellol
    * Citronellyl Butyrate
    * itronellyl Isobutyrate
    * Civet Absolute
    * Clary Oil
    * Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
    * Cocoa
    * Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
    * Coconut Oil
    * Coffee
    * Cognac White and Green Oil
    * Copaiba Oil
    * Coriander Extract and Oil
    * Corn Oil
    * Corn Silk
    * Costus Root Oil
    * Cubeb Oil
    * Cuminaldehyde
    * para-Cymene
    * 1-Cysteine
    * Dandelion Root Solid Extract
    * Davana Oil
    * 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
    * delta-Decalactone
    * gamma-Decalactone
    * Decanal
    * Decanoic Acid
    * 1-Decanol
    * 2-Decenal
    * Dehydromenthofurolactone
    * Diethyl Malonate
    * Diethyl Sebacate
    * 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
    * Dihydro Anethole
    * 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
    * Dill Seed Oil and Extract
    * meta-Dimethoxybenzene
    * para-Dimethoxybenzene
    * 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
    * Dimethyl Succinate
    * 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
    * 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
    * 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
    * 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
    * 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
    * 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
    * 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
    * alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
    * alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
    * alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
    * 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
    * Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
    * delta-Dodecalactone
    * gamma-Dodecalactone
    * para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
    * Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
    * Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
    * Ethyl Acetate
    * Ethyl Acetoacetate
    * Ethyl Alcohol
    * Ethyl Benzoate
    * Ethyl Butyrate
    * Ethyl Cinnamate
    * Ethyl Decanoate
    * Ethyl Fenchol
    * Ethyl Furoate
    * Ethyl Heptanoate
    * Ethyl Hexanoate
    * Ethyl Isovalerate
    * Ethyl Lactate
    * Ethyl Laurate
    * Ethyl Levulinate
    * Ethyl Maltol
    * Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
    * Ethyl Myristate
    * Ethyl Nonanoate
    * Ethyl Octadecanoate
    * Ethyl Octanoate
    * Ethyl Oleate
    * Ethyl Palmitate
    * Ethyl Phenylacetate
    * Ethyl Propionate
    * Ethyl Salicylate
    * Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
    * Ethyl Valerate
    * Ethyl Vanillin
    * 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
    * 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
    * 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
    * 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
    * 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
    * 4-Ethylguaiacol
    * para-Ethylphenol
    * 3-Ethylpyridine
    * Eucalyptol
    * Farnesol
    * D-Fenchone
    * Fennel Sweet Oil
    * Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
    * Fig Juice Concentrate
    * Food Starch Modified
    * Furfuryl Mercaptan
    * 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
    * Galbanum Oil
    * Genet Absolute
    * Gentian Root Extract
    * Geraniol
    * Geranium Rose Oil
    * Geranyl Acetate
    * Geranyl Butyrate
    * Geranyl Formate
    * Geranyl Isovalerate
    * Geranyl Phenylacetate
    * Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
    * 1-Glutamic Acid
    * 1-Glutamine
    * Glycerol
    * Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
    * Grape Juice Concentrate
    * Guaiac Wood Oil
    * Guaiacol
    * Guar Gum
    * 2,4-Heptadienal
    * gamma-Heptalactone
    * Heptanoic Acid
    * 2-Heptanone
    * 3-Hepten-2-One
    * 2-Hepten-4-One
    * 4-Heptenal
    * trans -2-Heptenal
    * Heptyl Acetate
    * omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
    * gamma-Hexalactone
    * Hexanal
    * Hexanoic Acid
    * 2-Hexen-1-Ol
    * 3-Hexen-1-Ol
    * cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
    * 2-Hexenal
    * 3-Hexenoic Acid
    * trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
    * cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
    * Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
    * Hexyl Acetate
    * Hexyl Alcohol
    * Hexyl Phenylacetate
    * 1-Histidine
    * Honey
    * Hops Oil
    * Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
    * Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
    * 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
    * 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
    * 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
    * 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
    * 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
    * 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
    * Hydroxycitronellal
    * 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
    * 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
    * Hyssop Oil
    * Immortelle Absolute and Extract
    * alpha-Ionone
    * beta-Ionone
    * alpha-Irone
    * Isoamyl Acetate
    * Isoamyl Benzoate
    * Isoamyl Butyrate
    * Isoamyl Cinnamate
    * Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
    * Isoamyl Isovalerate
    * Isoamyl Octanoate
    * Isoamyl Phenylacetate
    * Isobornyl Acetate
    * Isobutyl Acetate
    * Isobutyl Alcohol
    * Isobutyl Cinnamate
    * Isobutyl Phenylacetate
    * Isobutyl Salicylate
    * 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
    * alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
    * Isobutyraldehyde
    * Isobutyric Acid
    * d,l-Isoleucine
    * alpha-Isomethylionone
    * 2-Isopropylphenol
    * Isovaleric Acid
    * Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
    * Kola Nut Extract
    * Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
    * Lactic Acid
    * Lauric Acid
    * Lauric Aldehyde
    * Lavandin Oil
    * Lavender Oil
    * Lemon Oil and Extract
    * Lemongrass Oil
    * 1-Leucine
    * Levulinic Acid
    * Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
    * Lime Oil
    * Linalool
    * Linalool Oxide
    * Linalyl Acetate
    * Linden Flowers
    * Lovage Oil And Extract
    * 1-Lysine]
    * Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
    * Magnesium Carbonate
    * Malic Acid
    * Malt and Malt Extract
    * Maltodextrin
    * Maltol
    * Maltyl Isobutyrate
    * Mandarin Oil
    * Maple Syrup and Concentrate
    * Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
    * para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
    * Menthol
    * Menthone
    * Menthyl Acetate
    * dl-Methionine
    * Methoprene
    * 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
    * 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
    * para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
    * 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
    * 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
    * 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
    * Methoxypyrazine
    * Methyl 2-Furoate
    * Methyl 2-Octynoate
    * Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
    * Methyl Anisate
    * Methyl Anthranilate
    * Methyl Benzoate
    * Methyl Cinnamate
    * Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
    * Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
    * Methyl Isovalerate
    * Methyl Linoleate (48%)
    * Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
    * Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
    * Methyl Nicotinate
    * Methyl Phenylacetate
    * Methyl Salicylate
    * Methyl Sulfide
    * 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
    * 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
    * 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
    * 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
    * 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
    * 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
    * 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
    * 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
    * 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
    * 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
    * 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
    * 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
    * 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
    * Methyl-alpha-Ionone
    * Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
    * 4-Methylacetophenone
    * para-Methylanisole
    * alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
    * alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
    * 2-Methylbutyraldehyde
    * 3-Methylbutyraldehyde
    * 2-Methylbutyric Acid
    * alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
    * Methylcyclopentenolone
    * 2-Methylheptanoic Acid
    * 2-Methylhexanoic Acid
    * 3-Methylpentanoic Acid
    * 4-Methylpentanoic Acid
    * 2-Methylpyrazine
    * 5-Methylquinoxaline
    * 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
    * (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
    * 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
    * Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
    * 2-Methylvaleric Acid
    * Mimosa Absolute and Extract
    * Molasses Extract and Tincture
    * Mountain Maple Solid Extract
    * Mullein Flowers
    * Myristaldehyde
    * Myristic Acid
    * Myrrh Oil
    * beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
    * Nerol
    * Neroli Bigarde Oil
    * Nerolidol
    * Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
    * 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
    * gamma-Nonalactone
    * Nonanal
    * Nonanoic Acid
    * Nonanone
    * trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
    * 2-Nonenal
    * Nonyl Acetate
    * Nutmeg Powder and Oil
    * Oak Chips Extract and Oil
    * Oak Moss Absolute
    * 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
    * delta-Octalactone
    * gamma-Octalactone
    * Octanal
    * Octanoic Acid
    * 1-Octanol
    * 2-Octanone
    * 3-Octen-2-One
    * 1-Octen-3-Ol
    * 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
    * 2-Octenal
    * Octyl Isobutyrate
    * Oleic Acid
    * Olibanum Oil
    * Opoponax Oil And Gum
    * Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
    * Orange Oil and Extract
    * Origanum Oil
    * Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
    * Palmarosa Oil
    * Palmitic Acid
    * Parsley Seed Oil
    * Patchouli Oil
    * omega-Pentadecalactone
    * 2,3-Pentanedione
    * 2-Pentanone
    * 4-Pentenoic Acid
    * 2-Pentylpyridine
    * Pepper Oil, Black And White
    * Peppermint Oil
    * Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
    * Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
    * alpha-Phellandrene
    * 2-Phenenthyl Acetate
    * Phenenthyl Alcohol
    * Phenethyl Butyrate
    * Phenethyl Cinnamate
    * Phenethyl Isobutyrate
    * Phenethyl Isovalerate
    * Phenethyl Phenylacetate
    * Phenethyl Salicylate
    * 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
    * 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
    * 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
    * 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
    * 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
    * Phenylacetaldehyde
    * Phenylacetic Acid
    * 1-Phenylalanine
    * 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
    * 3-Phenylpropionic Acid
    * 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
    * 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
    * 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
    * Phosphoric Acid
    * Pimenta Leaf Oil
    * Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
    * Pineapple Juice Concentrate
    * alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
    * D-Piperitone
    * Piperonal
    * Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
    * Plum Juice
    * Potassium Sorbate
    * 1-Proline
    * Propenylguaethol
    * Propionic Acid
    * Propyl Acetate
    * Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
    * Propylene Glycol
    * 3-Propylidenephthalide
    * Prune Juice and Concentrate
    * Pyridine
    * Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
    * Pyrrole
    * Pyruvic Acid
    * Raisin Juice Concentrate
    * Rhodinol
    * Rose Absolute and Oil
    * Rosemary Oil
    * Rum
    * Rum Ether
    * Rye Extract
    * Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
    * Salicylaldehyde
    * Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
    * Sclareolide
    * Skatole
    * Smoke Flavor
    * Snakeroot Oil
    * Sodium Acetate
    * Sodium Benzoate
    * Sodium Bicarbonate
    * Sodium Carbonate
    * Sodium Chloride
    * Sodium Citrate
    * Sodium Hydroxide
    * Solanone
    * Spearmint Oil
    * Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
    * Sucrose Octaacetate
    * Sugar Alcohols
    * Sugars
    * Tagetes Oil
    * Tannic Acid
    * Tartaric Acid
    * Tea Leaf and Absolute
    * alpha-Terpineol
    * Terpinolene
    * Terpinyl Acetate
    * 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
    * 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
    * 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
    * 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
    * Thiamine Hydrochloride
    * Thiazole
    * 1-Threonine
    * Thyme Oil, White and Red
    * Thymol
    * Tobacco Extracts
    * Tochopherols (mixed)
    * Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
    * Tolualdehydes
    * para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
    * para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
    * para-Tolyl Acetate
    * para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
    * para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
    * Triacetin
    * 2-Tridecanone
    * 2-Tridecenal
    * Triethyl Citrate
    * 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
    * para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
    * 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
    * 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
    * 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
    * 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
    * 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
    * 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
    * 1-Tyrosine
    * delta-Undercalactone
    * gamma-Undecalactone
    * Undecanal
    * 2-Undecanone, 1
    * 0-Undecenal
    * Urea
    * Valencene
    * Valeraldehyde
    * Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
    * Valeric Acid
    * gamma-Valerolactone
    * Valine
    * Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
    * Vanillin
    * Veratraldehyde
    * Vetiver Oil
    * Vinegar
    * Violet Leaf Absolute
    * Walnut Hull Extract
    * Water
    * Wheat Extract And Flour
    * Wild Cherry Bark Extract
    * Wine and Wine Sherry
    * Xanthan Gum
    * 3,4-Xylenol
    * Yeast


Thank god that's perfectly legal to smoke but the devil's weed isn't :facepalm:


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Psilo_Subliminal]
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Yeah I can Google it too, and I have many many times.
There aren't very many studies, even less are reported on reputable sites, and it's a pretty even split.


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"are at least as high, if not higher, than cigarettes."

thats not very definitive.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: citricacidx]
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The post highlights the 599 additives approved for use in cigarettes by the US Government, which have not been tested for burning and can be toxic or carcinogenic. Hookah smoking, while marketed differently, can have similar physical effects due to the inhalation of more smoke over a longer period. The post emphasizes the dangers of secondhand smoke and the lack of comprehensive research on the health effects of hookah smoking.

citricacidx said:
it doesn't matter if it's specifically marketed to children, they say the flavoring is to lure children in.

on another note, Hookahs are similar to cigarettes in the physical effects. You smoke more in a hookah session, but you don't hookah every 5-10 minutes, or even every week for that matter. Plus shisha doesn't have those other things added to cigarettes.

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The list of 599 additives approved by the US Government for use in the manufacture of cigarettes is something every smoker should see. Submitted by the five major American cigarette companies to the Dept. of Health and Human Services in April of 1994, this list of ingredients had long been kept a secret.

Tobacco companies reporting this information were:

      American Tobacco Company
      Brown and Williamson
      Liggett Group, Inc.
      Philip Morris Inc.
      R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

While these ingredients are approved as additives for foods, they were not tested by burning them, and it is the burning of many of these substances which changes their properties, often for the worse. Over 4000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette, many of which are toxic and/or carcinogenic. Carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide and ammonia are all present in cigarette smoke. Forty-three known carcinogens are in mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, or both.

It's chilling to think about not only how smokers poison themselves, but what others are exposed to by breathing in the secondhand smoke. The next time you're missing your old buddy, the cigarette, take a good long look at this list and see them for what they are: a delivery system for toxic chemicals and carcinogens.

Cigarettes offer people only a multitude of smoking-related diseases and ultimately death.

The List of 599 Additives in Cigarettes

    * Acetanisole
    * Acetic Acid
    * Acetoin
    * Acetophenone
    * 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
    * 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
    * 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
    * Acetylpyrazine
    * 2-Acetylpyridine
    * 3-Acetylpyridine
    * 2-Acetylthiazole
    * Aconitic Acid
    * dl-Alanine
    * Alfalfa Extract
    * Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
    * Allyl Hexanoate
    * Allyl Ionone
    * Almond Bitter Oil
    * Ambergris Tincture
    * Ammonia
    * Ammonium Bicarbonate
    * Ammonium Hydroxide
    * Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
    * Ammonium Sulfide
    * Amyl Alcohol
    * Amyl Butyrate
    * Amyl Formate
    * Amyl Octanoate
    * alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
    * Amyris Oil
    * trans-Anethole
    * Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
    * Anise
    * Anise Star, Extract and Oils
    * Anisyl Acetate
    * Anisyl Alcohol
    * Anisyl Formate
    * Anisyl Phenylacetate
    * Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
    * Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
    * 1-Arginine
    * Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
    * Ascorbic Acid
    * 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
    * 1-Aspartic Acid
    * Balsam Peru and Oil
    * Basil Oil
    * Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
    * Beeswax White
    * Beet Juice Concentrate
    * Benzaldehyde
    * Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
    * Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
    * Benzoin Resin
    * Benzophenone
    * Benzyl Alcohol
    * Benzyl Benzoate
    * Benzyl Butyrate
    * Benzyl Cinnamate
    * Benzyl Propionate
    * Benzyl Salicylate
    * Bergamot Oil
    * Bisabolene
    * Black Currant Buds Absolute
    * Borneol
    * Bornyl Acetate
    * Buchu Leaf Oil
    * 1,3-Butanediol
    * 2,3-Butanedione
    * 1-Butanol
    * 2-Butanone
    * 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
    * Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
    * Butyl Acetate
    * Butyl Butyrate
    * Butyl Butyryl Lactate
    * Butyl Isovalerate
    * Butyl Phenylacetate
    * Butyl Undecylenate
    * 3-Butylidenephthalide
    * Butyric Acid]
    * Cadinene
    * Caffeine
    * Calcium Carbonate
    * Camphene
    * Cananga Oil
    * Capsicum Oleoresin
    * Caramel Color
    * Caraway Oil
    * Carbon Dioxide
    * Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
    * Carob Bean and Extract
    * beta-Carotene
    * Carrot Oil
    * Carvacrol
    * 4-Carvomenthenol
    * 1-Carvone
    * beta-Caryophyllene
    * beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
    * Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
    * Cassia Bark Oil
    * Cassie Absolute and Oil
    * Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
    * Cedar Leaf Oil
    * Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
    * Cedrol
    * Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
    * Cellulose Fiber
    * Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
    * Chicory Extract
    * Chocolate
    * Cinnamaldehyde
    * Cinnamic Acid
    * Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
    * Cinnamyl Acetate
    * Cinnamyl Alcohol
    * Cinnamyl Cinnamate
    * Cinnamyl Isovalerate
    * Cinnamyl Propionate
    * Citral
    * Citric Acid
    * Citronella Oil
    * dl-Citronellol
    * Citronellyl Butyrate
    * itronellyl Isobutyrate
    * Civet Absolute
    * Clary Oil
    * Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
    * Cocoa
    * Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
    * Coconut Oil
    * Coffee
    * Cognac White and Green Oil
    * Copaiba Oil
    * Coriander Extract and Oil
    * Corn Oil
    * Corn Silk
    * Costus Root Oil
    * Cubeb Oil
    * Cuminaldehyde
    * para-Cymene
    * 1-Cysteine
    * Dandelion Root Solid Extract
    * Davana Oil
    * 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
    * delta-Decalactone
    * gamma-Decalactone
    * Decanal
    * Decanoic Acid
    * 1-Decanol
    * 2-Decenal
    * Dehydromenthofurolactone
    * Diethyl Malonate
    * Diethyl Sebacate
    * 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
    * Dihydro Anethole
    * 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
    * Dill Seed Oil and Extract
    * meta-Dimethoxybenzene
    * para-Dimethoxybenzene
    * 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
    * Dimethyl Succinate
    * 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
    * 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
    * 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
    * 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
    * 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
    * 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
    * 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
    * alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
    * alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
    * alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
    * 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
    * Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
    * delta-Dodecalactone
    * gamma-Dodecalactone
    * para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
    * Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
    * Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
    * Ethyl Acetate
    * Ethyl Acetoacetate
    * Ethyl Alcohol
    * Ethyl Benzoate
    * Ethyl Butyrate
    * Ethyl Cinnamate
    * Ethyl Decanoate
    * Ethyl Fenchol
    * Ethyl Furoate
    * Ethyl Heptanoate
    * Ethyl Hexanoate
    * Ethyl Isovalerate
    * Ethyl Lactate
    * Ethyl Laurate
    * Ethyl Levulinate
    * Ethyl Maltol
    * Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
    * Ethyl Myristate
    * Ethyl Nonanoate
    * Ethyl Octadecanoate
    * Ethyl Octanoate
    * Ethyl Oleate
    * Ethyl Palmitate
    * Ethyl Phenylacetate
    * Ethyl Propionate
    * Ethyl Salicylate
    * Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
    * Ethyl Valerate
    * Ethyl Vanillin
    * 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
    * 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
    * 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
    * 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
    * 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
    * 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
    * 4-Ethylguaiacol
    * para-Ethylphenol
    * 3-Ethylpyridine
    * Eucalyptol
    * Farnesol
    * D-Fenchone
    * Fennel Sweet Oil
    * Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
    * Fig Juice Concentrate
    * Food Starch Modified
    * Furfuryl Mercaptan
    * 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
    * Galbanum Oil
    * Genet Absolute
    * Gentian Root Extract
    * Geraniol
    * Geranium Rose Oil
    * Geranyl Acetate
    * Geranyl Butyrate
    * Geranyl Formate
    * Geranyl Isovalerate
    * Geranyl Phenylacetate
    * Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
    * 1-Glutamic Acid
    * 1-Glutamine
    * Glycerol
    * Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
    * Grape Juice Concentrate
    * Guaiac Wood Oil
    * Guaiacol
    * Guar Gum
    * 2,4-Heptadienal
    * gamma-Heptalactone
    * Heptanoic Acid
    * 2-Heptanone
    * 3-Hepten-2-One
    * 2-Hepten-4-One
    * 4-Heptenal
    * trans -2-Heptenal
    * Heptyl Acetate
    * omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
    * gamma-Hexalactone
    * Hexanal
    * Hexanoic Acid
    * 2-Hexen-1-Ol
    * 3-Hexen-1-Ol
    * cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
    * 2-Hexenal
    * 3-Hexenoic Acid
    * trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
    * cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
    * Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
    * Hexyl Acetate
    * Hexyl Alcohol
    * Hexyl Phenylacetate
    * 1-Histidine
    * Honey
    * Hops Oil
    * Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
    * Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
    * 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
    * 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
    * 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
    * 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
    * 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
    * 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
    * Hydroxycitronellal
    * 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
    * 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
    * Hyssop Oil
    * Immortelle Absolute and Extract
    * alpha-Ionone
    * beta-Ionone
    * alpha-Irone
    * Isoamyl Acetate
    * Isoamyl Benzoate
    * Isoamyl Butyrate
    * Isoamyl Cinnamate
    * Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
    * Isoamyl Isovalerate
    * Isoamyl Octanoate
    * Isoamyl Phenylacetate
    * Isobornyl Acetate
    * Isobutyl Acetate
    * Isobutyl Alcohol
    * Isobutyl Cinnamate
    * Isobutyl Phenylacetate
    * Isobutyl Salicylate
    * 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
    * alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
    * Isobutyraldehyde
    * Isobutyric Acid
    * d,l-Isoleucine
    * alpha-Isomethylionone
    * 2-Isopropylphenol
    * Isovaleric Acid
    * Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
    * Kola Nut Extract
    * Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
    * Lactic Acid
    * Lauric Acid
    * Lauric Aldehyde
    * Lavandin Oil
    * Lavender Oil
    * Lemon Oil and Extract
    * Lemongrass Oil
    * 1-Leucine
    * Levulinic Acid
    * Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
    * Lime Oil
    * Linalool
    * Linalool Oxide
    * Linalyl Acetate
    * Linden Flowers
    * Lovage Oil And Extract
    * 1-Lysine]
    * Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
    * Magnesium Carbonate
    * Malic Acid
    * Malt and Malt Extract
    * Maltodextrin
    * Maltol
    * Maltyl Isobutyrate
    * Mandarin Oil
    * Maple Syrup and Concentrate
    * Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
    * para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
    * Menthol
    * Menthone
    * Menthyl Acetate
    * dl-Methionine
    * Methoprene
    * 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
    * 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
    * para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
    * 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
    * 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
    * 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
    * Methoxypyrazine
    * Methyl 2-Furoate
    * Methyl 2-Octynoate
    * Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
    * Methyl Anisate
    * Methyl Anthranilate
    * Methyl Benzoate
    * Methyl Cinnamate
    * Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
    * Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
    * Methyl Isovalerate
    * Methyl Linoleate (48%)
    * Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
    * Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
    * Methyl Nicotinate
    * Methyl Phenylacetate
    * Methyl Salicylate
    * Methyl Sulfide
    * 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
    * 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
    * 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
    * 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
    * 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
    * 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
    * 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
    * 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
    * 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
    * 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
    * 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
    * 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
    * 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
    * Methyl-alpha-Ionone
    * Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
    * 4-Methylacetophenone
    * para-Methylanisole
    * alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
    * alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
    * 2-Methylbutyraldehyde
    * 3-Methylbutyraldehyde
    * 2-Methylbutyric Acid
    * alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
    * Methylcyclopentenolone
    * 2-Methylheptanoic Acid
    * 2-Methylhexanoic Acid
    * 3-Methylpentanoic Acid
    * 4-Methylpentanoic Acid
    * 2-Methylpyrazine
    * 5-Methylquinoxaline
    * 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
    * (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
    * 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
    * Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
    * 2-Methylvaleric Acid
    * Mimosa Absolute and Extract
    * Molasses Extract and Tincture
    * Mountain Maple Solid Extract
    * Mullein Flowers
    * Myristaldehyde
    * Myristic Acid
    * Myrrh Oil
    * beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
    * Nerol
    * Neroli Bigarde Oil
    * Nerolidol
    * Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
    * 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
    * gamma-Nonalactone
    * Nonanal
    * Nonanoic Acid
    * Nonanone
    * trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
    * 2-Nonenal
    * Nonyl Acetate
    * Nutmeg Powder and Oil
    * Oak Chips Extract and Oil
    * Oak Moss Absolute
    * 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
    * delta-Octalactone
    * gamma-Octalactone
    * Octanal
    * Octanoic Acid
    * 1-Octanol
    * 2-Octanone
    * 3-Octen-2-One
    * 1-Octen-3-Ol
    * 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
    * 2-Octenal
    * Octyl Isobutyrate
    * Oleic Acid
    * Olibanum Oil
    * Opoponax Oil And Gum
    * Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
    * Orange Oil and Extract
    * Origanum Oil
    * Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
    * Palmarosa Oil
    * Palmitic Acid
    * Parsley Seed Oil
    * Patchouli Oil
    * omega-Pentadecalactone
    * 2,3-Pentanedione
    * 2-Pentanone
    * 4-Pentenoic Acid
    * 2-Pentylpyridine
    * Pepper Oil, Black And White
    * Peppermint Oil
    * Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
    * Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
    * alpha-Phellandrene
    * 2-Phenenthyl Acetate
    * Phenenthyl Alcohol
    * Phenethyl Butyrate
    * Phenethyl Cinnamate
    * Phenethyl Isobutyrate
    * Phenethyl Isovalerate
    * Phenethyl Phenylacetate
    * Phenethyl Salicylate
    * 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
    * 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
    * 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
    * 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
    * 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
    * Phenylacetaldehyde
    * Phenylacetic Acid
    * 1-Phenylalanine
    * 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
    * 3-Phenylpropionic Acid
    * 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
    * 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
    * 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
    * Phosphoric Acid
    * Pimenta Leaf Oil
    * Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
    * Pineapple Juice Concentrate
    * alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
    * D-Piperitone
    * Piperonal
    * Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
    * Plum Juice
    * Potassium Sorbate
    * 1-Proline
    * Propenylguaethol
    * Propionic Acid
    * Propyl Acetate
    * Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
    * Propylene Glycol
    * 3-Propylidenephthalide
    * Prune Juice and Concentrate
    * Pyridine
    * Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
    * Pyrrole
    * Pyruvic Acid
    * Raisin Juice Concentrate
    * Rhodinol
    * Rose Absolute and Oil
    * Rosemary Oil
    * Rum
    * Rum Ether
    * Rye Extract
    * Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
    * Salicylaldehyde
    * Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
    * Sclareolide
    * Skatole
    * Smoke Flavor
    * Snakeroot Oil
    * Sodium Acetate
    * Sodium Benzoate
    * Sodium Bicarbonate
    * Sodium Carbonate
    * Sodium Chloride
    * Sodium Citrate
    * Sodium Hydroxide
    * Solanone
    * Spearmint Oil
    * Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
    * Sucrose Octaacetate
    * Sugar Alcohols
    * Sugars
    * Tagetes Oil
    * Tannic Acid
    * Tartaric Acid
    * Tea Leaf and Absolute
    * alpha-Terpineol
    * Terpinolene
    * Terpinyl Acetate
    * 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
    * 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
    * 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
    * 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
    * Thiamine Hydrochloride
    * Thiazole
    * 1-Threonine
    * Thyme Oil, White and Red
    * Thymol
    * Tobacco Extracts
    * Tochopherols (mixed)
    * Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
    * Tolualdehydes
    * para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
    * para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
    * para-Tolyl Acetate
    * para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
    * para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
    * Triacetin
    * 2-Tridecanone
    * 2-Tridecenal
    * Triethyl Citrate
    * 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
    * para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
    * 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
    * 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
    * 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
    * 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
    * 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
    * 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
    * 1-Tyrosine
    * delta-Undercalactone
    * gamma-Undecalactone
    * Undecanal
    * 2-Undecanone, 1
    * 0-Undecenal
    * Urea
    * Valencene
    * Valeraldehyde
    * Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
    * Valeric Acid
    * gamma-Valerolactone
    * Valine
    * Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
    * Vanillin
    * Veratraldehyde
    * Vetiver Oil
    * Vinegar
    * Violet Leaf Absolute
    * Walnut Hull Extract
    * Water
    * Wheat Extract And Flour
    * Wild Cherry Bark Extract
    * Wine and Wine Sherry
    * Xanthan Gum
    * 3,4-Xylenol
    * Yeast


Thank god that's perfectly legal to smoke but the devil's weed isn't :facepalm:


Maybe thats because we haven't made a list and studied the amount of additives in hookah tobacco?

Like you said, theres not that much research on the health effects of hookah smoking.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
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Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.



Lol yeahhhhhhh thats bullshit :whatever:

People consider it healthier because shisha does not contain all the other chemicals/carcinogens in a common cigarette.  As far as comparing shisha to all natural cigarette tobacco(not containing chemicals), I'm not sure whats better which is why I'm not gonna make up some bullshit idea I came up with in my head and call it a fact.


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Re: will the tobacco ban affect hookah? [Re: DeathCompany]
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DeathCompany said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.



Lol yeahhhhhhh thats bullshit :whatever:

People consider it healthier because shisha does not contain all the other chemicals/carcinogens in a common cigarette. 


I don't see the words "natural" or "organic" ANYWHERE on the shisha at my local stores. What makes you think theres not a shit load of additives in it?

Don't bullshit the bullshitter.

Edited by Nuggetpouch (07/29/09 05:22 PM)

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i really wish i could find a list of what's in hookahs. I honestly think they're less harmful than cigarettes but not by much. But that's just mein opinion, I have no evidence to support that claim.


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DeathCompany said:
Nuggetpouch said:
Coaster said:
lol its still healthier than cigs tho i thnk


False.

The only reason it may be considered "healthier" is because you can't just pull one out of your pocket and smoke them all through out the day where ever you are.

You can smoke 20 cigarettes a day easy on the other hand.



Lol yeahhhhhhh thats bullshit :whatever:

People consider it healthier because shisha does not contain all the other chemicals/carcinogens in a common cigarette.  As far as comparing shisha to all natural cigarette tobacco(not containing chemicals), I'm not sure whats better which is why I'm not gonna make up some bullshit idea I came up with in my head and call it a fact.


glad someone else saw the ridiculousness of that post


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