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So I was ordered Residential Treatment.
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Well apparently for smoking pot, and doing Mushrooms this was ordered upon me.

There is clear and convincing evidence to believe that the respondent meets the criteria for Involuntary Treatment because, the respondent is substance abuse impaired and because of that impairment, the respondent has lost the power of self-control with respect to substance abuse and the Respondent has inflicted, or is likely to inflict physical harm on themselves or others unless admitted or the Respondent's refusal to Voluntarily receive care is based on judgement so impaired by reason of substance abuse that the respondent is incapable of appreciating their need for care and of making a rational decision regarding that need for care.

But there are no bed open in the center.

So I'm ordered to attend Intensive Outpatient treatment until a room is available.

any advic


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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urrr Freedom of choice? or Involuntary freedom of choice?

Ask them if you can get high for free in there. Otherwise i woudnt do it.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: virus1824]
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I have to go.

If I don't I get locked up.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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you stated you will get locked up anyway.

But do you agree with that has been stated? could you put it into some sort of context?


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: virus1824]
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No I do not agree at all,

My whole family is filing this "March Man Act" on me
Whole family being My parents, and Grand Parents(Who I tend to stay away from religious freaks :nonono:)
March Man Act:
A Marchman Act is a means of providing an individual in need of substance abuse services with emergency services and temporary detention for substance abuse evaluation and treatment when required, either on a voluntary or involuntary basis.

but I don't have a substance abuse problem :facepalm:
I just don't like them.

They think because I don't talk to them, and don't agree with the things I say, I'm supposedly crazy :ilold:

Apparently Philosophical thoughts, and concepts, are stated only by people in need of Mental help :lmafo:


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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Quote:
There is clear and convincing evidence



Big grey zones in that statement. how can there be clear evidence of this? have you been arrested for drug use or arrested while damaging something or somebody while under the influence? i doubt this to be a case that can hold in any court.

your country never stops scaring me.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: virus1824]
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so if you dont go you get locked up?
what the hell was the crime?

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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: virus1824]
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I have been arrested before for "Possession"

But I was never found with Marijuana on me.
Someone called the cops, and told them that there weed was mine.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: ravenshield420]
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ravenshield420 said:
so if you dont go you get locked up?
what the hell was the crime?



March Man Act:
A Marchman Act is a means of providing an individual in need of substance abuse services with emergency services and temporary detention for substance abuse evaluation and treatment when required, either on a voluntary or involuntary basis.

Who Can file a March Man Act:
In addition to a law enforcement officer's authority to implement protective custody measures in emergency involuntary situations, a private practitioner, the person's spouse or guardian, any relative of the person, the director of a licensed service provider or the director's designee, or any three (3) responsible adults who have personal knowledge of the person's substance abuse impairment.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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**BUMP** I'd really like some advice.. :shrug:


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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Can't you refuse to cooperate and serve your time in jail?


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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As soon as I get out I'll be sent to the Residential Treatment center:frown:


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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How old are you?


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: lukeboots]
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wtf. our country scares me too virus


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: iamu]
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Doesn't matter. If you refuse to participate in treatment they cannot hold you forever. If you don't feel that it is justified then don't go along with their nonsense. It wouldn't be easy, but in the end it would be satisfying.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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jonnywax said:
How old are you?



19

Huehuecoyotl said:
Doesn't matter. If you refuse to participate in treatment they cannot hold you forever. If you don't feel that it is justified then don't go along with their nonsense. It wouldn't be easy, but in the end it would be satisfying.



So just refuse everything?


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Nicolas]
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Well, it's unfortunate, but I suggest you play along with your parents games until you can afford to leave and do your thing in peace. I don't mean to say that you should go to treatment to make them happy (that won't make them happy anyway, unless you change, and it doesn't sound like you will), and it's too bad that it got this far already, but you can do one thing, and that's pretend. Don't wax philosophical at your parents, don't let them think you're on drugs. You're not going to win if you fight "the system", and that's not who did this to you, it was your family. Play along. Be a spy. Don't get caught, and leave any differences you have with your parents at the door. At 19, you're only a stones throw away from being able to support yourself and getting away from all of this. It seems to me that the only way you're going to get out of treatment is to talk to your parents about alternative routes they can take to help you, to try to rationalize with them, to sympathize with them, etc. It might not be something you want to do, but they're your legal guardians and it sounds like they're willing to exercise every little bit of that "legal" part that they can.


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: lukeboots]
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wow... i would never forgive my parents for that.

Hire a lawyer dude. If you cant, go to the treatment center and do what you have to do

until you get home. When you get there just "act" like a kid who is definitely in the wrong place. Tell them your parents are overly religious and "mentally" abusive (really general category and im sure you could think of something)  then explain your parents used a loophole on you and forced you to be there cause you didn't accept their religious beliefs. What im trying to say is that if their forcing you to go, you might as well turn that shit back on them and give make their lives a little harder.

Apparently you only have a possession charge and that is hardly any grounds for residential treatment, so you totally have the shit in your favor. Obviously don't tell anyone you've done shrooms before (it is a "treatment" center and there is a very good chance some "Treated" dude might narc you out regardless of the drugs he/she did in the past)

Remember this is what I Would Personally Do if i was fucked over:smirk:


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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: doyoutrip]
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I've been in your shoes my friend. My family popped an intervention on me, upon which I was given the options of either being flown to some distant rehab facility or arrested.

I opted for neither and split the scene so fast that heads were spinning. I ran to my car and sped off. Unfortunately, my logic was not great enough to stop me from returning to my residence 80 miles away, where several police cars proceeded to swarm me. Little did I know that my family had gone through my apartment with the police only days before, in my absence and without my knowledge, looking for anything incriminating.

The next major point in the story is me being arraigned and threatened with "25 years or $375,000". I really felt like my family had helped me by that point.

Long story short, I took a "conditional discharge" because the offense was my first and such a provision existed for me. Of course, I could have fought the whole thing, and in many ways wanted to. I choose the path of least resistance. It included a provision that I obtain mandatory drug rehab, which sucked balls. However, I would prefer that to jail. All you have to do is act reformed. Drug treatment centers are textbook rackets. The harder you fight it, the more it will suck. Learn to play ball, tell them what they want to hear ("I've realized the errors of my ways, now that I'm not on drugs, and it is my most profound drive never to return to that state.") You get the idea. I can tell you everything about this game. I can coach you through the whole thing. Let me know, and I'll send a PM.

In my case, I certainly wasn't crazy. I came out the closet about my psychedelic drug use at the time, as it had impacted me tremendously. I was chock full of idealism and wasn't afraid to let anyone know. And that was a huge mistake. Keep that shit quiet son.

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Re: So I was ordered Residential Treatment. [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Thank you all for the helpful advice, and concern I appreciate it all so much.

You guys are great!

I love Shroomery!
:highfive:


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