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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: Bridgeburner]
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http://www.collthings.co.uk/2008/06/10-very-rare-clouds.html


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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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ChiefGreenLeaf said:
guys...
please don't be a victim to propaganda
you have a brain
just find out for yourself
that's what the internet is for
empower yourself




Any chance of empowring myself with some info disclosing the data, methodology, analysis methods, and conclusions with support for them?


That seems to be the problem- lost of conclusory statements with random pictures and no actual information one could rely on.


If those guys want to be taken seriously they should spend less time just putting videos on youtube looking at the sky and more time providing the above.  Maybe they can't cuz the conclusions they want you to draw cannot be supported with the data they claim to have?

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
c0sm0nautt said:


Thought of this thread when I saw this:

The cloud with no name: Meteorologists campaign to classify unique 'Asperatus' clouds seen across the world


Is that a real photo, or is it photoshopped?


wow. chemtrails and HARRP anyone?

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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thats insane. it didnt look real at first. I wouldnt be so sure. if the poles are in the process of shiffting, maybe the magnetic feild of the earth is pulling the clouds/creating catastrophic weather. I know here in CO weve ben getting tons of rain, ive never seen it rain so much and ive ben here for over 15 years. last night it was like a strobe light, the lightning was so bizzare. my bro called me up because he was watching it, he said even the movies couldnt make the lightning lookthat good.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
ChiefGreenLeaf said:
guys...
please don't be a victim to propaganda
you have a brain
just find out for yourself
that's what the internet is for
empower yourself




Any chance of empowring myself with some info disclosing the data, methodology, analysis methods, and conclusions with support for them?


That seems to be the problem- lost of conclusory statements with random pictures and no actual information one could rely on.


If those guys want to be taken seriously they should spend less time just putting videos on youtube looking at the sky and more time providing the above.  Maybe they can't cuz the conclusions they want you to draw cannot be supported with the data they claim to have?


this is where i have problems with people. you see it goes like this...
i ask you to prove that the earth is revolving around the sun.
you say 'wow ur a fucking moron everyone knows that'
but i ask for data and experiments blah blah
you go and point me to astronomy stuff that outlines the whole idea
but i want DATA, CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE
you even find experiments that have been put online that prove it
but i argue that 'any old cook can go and put stuff on the internet'
you have to prove it to me yourself
so you see, how do you do that?
you can't go pull the data out of your ass
you would have to get lots of $$$ and buy expensive technology set it up in ur backyard get results and then show me and for all you know i might remained 'unconvinced' because ur data was faulty whatever bullshit i want to say
who would do that?
that is like doctors nowadays. they spend millions of dollars on research just so they can say "apples are healthy and might help fight cancer"
no shit. you just wasted all that time and money to tell me something that a four year old intuitively knows.
but that's how our society operates. great way to enslave people
they read an article in popular mechanics or some shit and think theyre experts.
when it comes down to it, why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails?
you can just go outside and see them
this makes me so sad that we humans have so much potential yet
at the same time most of us are fucking retards
so i cant convince you. why bother?

good luck

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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Uhhh, you dont need expensive technology to prove the earth goes around the sun.  It was proven by naked eye observation combined with pen and paper hundreds of years ago.  Millions of low level students can do the calculations.


Quote:
when it comes down to it, why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails?
you can just go outside and see them


:rofl2:

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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ChiefGreenLeaf said:
when it comes down to it, why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails?
you can just go outside and see them


Because I don't just blindly trust everything my eyes and inherent sense of paranoia tell me.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
Gonna repost my complaint with the chemtrail theory here:

Quote:
The people spraying things and the people who gave the orders to spray things live in the same cities you claim these chemtrails are spraying.  I doubt they would enact such an option if they too were getting affected.



dude people can easily be brain washed or convinced that they are helping to "save lives" or "its for science"

what do you think the military does to kids my age?

manipulate

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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Appeal to brainwashing... nice...

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
ChiefGreenLeaf said:
when it comes down to it, why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails?
you can just go outside and see them


Because I don't just blindly trust everything my eyes and inherent sense of paranoia tell me.


thats cool im not going to tell you how to think. when you die and your entire life flashes before your eyes you will understand. thats all i can say really

personally i didn't think anything of them when i first learned about them. a year later i saw them over my city. then i did some research and this shit really checks out.



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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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What kind of research did you do?

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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by chem trails you mean trails of chemicals in the sky right? how do they bend and dash like their a being or controlled in a certain direction? thats crazy, and I mean crazy in the mindblowing way.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
Uhhh, you dont need expensive technology to prove the earth goes around the sun.  It was proven by naked eye observation combined with pen and paper hundreds of years ago.  Millions of low level students can do the calculations.


Quote:
when it comes down to it, why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails?
you can just go outside and see them


:rofl2:


I was just using that for an example. we gots to communicate with metaphors.

but aside from that how do you think the rest of the post went?
and the "go outside and see them thing"
im not saying we need to abandon reason. im saying that we dont need to wait around for others to "prove it"

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: DieCommie]
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cant you see, he looked up a vid on you tube. what more could you ask for?

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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ChiefGreenLeaf said:
why the fuck would you need data to know about chemtrails? you can just go outside and see them





ChiefGreenLeaf said:
a year later i saw them over my city. then i did some research and this shit really checks out.




Sooooo, which is it?

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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lol

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
What kind of research did you do?


well i see them all the time. and it's not contrails because i've seen regular airplanes flying right beside them.

i noticed a pattern that they would spray some that would be thinner. they wouldn't block out the sky. then a couple days later they would spray heavier ones that would turn into clouds and block out the sun. i theorized that the first ones are radioactive aerosols that are used to track  pressure differences, cloud topography. then the next couple days they would formulate where to spray heavier aerosols in a way that would spread out over the whole sky based on the topography results.

i go on the internet and read the exact same thing...
just watch the doc it does a good job

it would take me books to really explain my whole story but let me just say that Ive come to a point where god "tells me" when stuff is significant or not. i get a feeling of a big energy ball on top of my head and then i get these orgasmic like ripples float down my body from my crown. it happens without my effort or my consent. it will happen usually when I'm reading or if I've been pondering, or in meditation when powerful ideas are uploaded into my consciousness. there really are no words to describe this. it is the creative force, kundalini. i am like a shaman, i use the force to help myself and others.

i really can't even begin to tell you... just know that our world is changing. some bad people are trying to do some bad things. good people will let them because they are distracted and have forgotten our connection to the earth and to creator. lots of people will suffer and die. there will be a final battle, we will be judged by nature. if you survive you will get to help build the golden age.

i wish all of you discover your true self. may you find peace and happiness in that which is truly you. i look forward to spreading the dharma with you in all lifetimes to come.

namaste.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: Poid]
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to me, the clouds are the same to me as the stars.. i take them for granted until i look up at them.  are they supposed to be different? I've been in a few different regions of the country and they seem to be the same in a roundabout way.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:
http://www.collthings.co.uk/2008/06/10-very-rare-clouds.html


most of those are chemtrail HARRP clouds. the video that shows those clouds right before the earthquake in china, yeah that's HARRP type shit

i bet you that most of those have never been documented except in the last 15 years.

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Re: Have you seen the clouds lately? [Re: dieselkush]
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dieselkush said:
by chem trails you mean trails of chemicals in the sky right? how do they bend and dash like their a being or controlled in a certain direction? thats crazy, and I mean crazy in the mindblowing way.


HARRP nigga HARRP

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