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Propaganda??
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJPD_emdcBg

This is getting a little insane.


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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i don't understand. please explain your reasoning.


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: AlteredAgain]
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Just on the fence.


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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57 varieties of alien beings cataloged by 1989
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV9Wt_BCI-U



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From dust you are made and to dust you shall return.

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: elbisivni]
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Pickle power??


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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*Scratches Head*

So wheres the philosophy and spirituality?


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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I have the whole video of that on my computer. The disclosure project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disclosure_Project

And its members are credible scientists & military personnel some of which have worked for the US government & have witnessed UFO activity.
"testimonies from a guard & officer that worked at a nuclear missile site/silo. Claiming the missile was rendered inactive/unusable"


Strangely the National Press Club Conference & many other conferences were not picked by mainstream press & was also forgotten in the 9/11 frenzy which happened 4 months after.

P.S.
Why is this in Philosophy & Spirituality.??


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Edited by UnderNose (05/28/07 11:53 AM)

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: UnderNose]
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Guess this is more of a paranormal type post. But, if the paranormal is set to drop the prefix, the personal philosophy and ones spirituality might have to answer to a small 'change'. If, that is, they don't already account for such things.


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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Here are just a few testimonies.
All these people swore to testify to a Senate comity or a court..whatever


Dwynne Arneson Lt. Colonel, US Air Force (retired)
* While in Ramstein AFB in Germany, he got a classified message that said that a UFO had crashed in Spitsbergen, Norway.

Dan Willis US Navy
* Received in the code room of Naval Communications Station San Francisco a secret priority message from a ship off the coast of Alaska, reporting a glowing reddish orange elliptical object 70 feet in diameter, emerging out of the ocean and shooting off into space and tracked by ships radar at 7000 mph.


Franklin Carter US Navy
* He witnessed a UFO on the radar moving at 3,400 miles an hour.

Frederick Marshall Fox Lieutenant, US Navy (retired)
* "There is a publication called JANAP 146 E that had a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000.00 fine and ten years in jail. So they were quite adamant that whatever experiences you had you were not to go public with it without their permission…"
* "The subject never came up with Air Traffic Control. In any event I would never have opened my mouth. There was a Captain, Pete Killian, who was written about in some of the UFO books. He was a Captain with American Airlines back in the ‘50’s that evidently had a sighting and testified before the Senate committees. And then there was another captain that actually took a photograph of a UFO off his wings. And of course they were subject to ridicule. I didn’t want to go that direction. So, I never reported anything to FAA or the military. A lot of pilots just did not want to get involved in this because of peer pressure and ridicule. So the secret has been kept

Richard Haines Dr., NASA research scientist
* Over the past 30 years, he has compiled more than 3,000 cases of unusual visual and radar sightings of unexplained aerial phenomena.

Donna Hare Former NASA contract employee
* Claims that a man quarantined with the Apollo astronauts had told her that the astronauts had seen an alien craft when they landed on the moon but were told not to reveal it.

Robert Jacobs Professor, Lt. US Air Force
* In 1964, while working as an officer in the Air Force at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, he said they filmed a UFO traveling besides a ballistic missile test and then directing a 4 beams of light at the missile causing the missile to tumble out of space.

Steven Lovekin Brigadier General, Esq., White House Army Signaling Agency
* Said that while stationed at White House 1959-1961, was extensively briefed on UFO reality, shown crash debris from 1947 New Mexico crash with 3 to 5 alien bodies recovered, told people had been assassinated to maintain secrecy, and he and other Signal Corps members heard President Eisenhower rueing how control of the situation was being lost by the government and taken over by private corporations (part of Eisenhower's military-industrial complex warning).

John Williams Lieutenant Colonel, Air Force rescue helicopter pilot
* While in the military he learned about a facility inside of Norton Air Force Base in California, that contained a UFO craft stored, and that certain Senators such as Bob Dole had visited the facility.

Clifford Stone Sergeant, United States Army
* Stone says he has seen living and dead extraterrestrials while working for an army team that retrieved crashed ET crafts

Daniel Sheehan Washington lawyer
* Claims to have seen photographs of captured UFOs with alien symbols/writings in the National Archives during the Carter administration which then-CIA Director George Bush refused to release.


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Edited by UnderNose (05/28/07 12:05 PM)

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: UnderNose]
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Yes it is


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: UnderNose]
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Where can I find the whole thing??


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The Disclosure Project [Re: backfromthedead]
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Here is the whole thing on google video for ya.

The Disclosure Project 1hr 55min

or go to the wiki link I put up.
Down the bottom there is links to a few other conferences they have done.

Watch it & tell me what you think..
It's not propaganda, saying Saddam / Iraq had something to do with 9/11 & had nukes is propaganda.


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Edited by UnderNose (05/28/07 12:15 PM)

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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: backfromthedead]
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I missed something in your opening post. What exactly is your philosophical point up for debate?


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Re: Propaganda?? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I guess I just wanted to see how people view the situation, thats all. If there are those that call bullshit. And indeed there are. Or if people put up more info to support the claim. I've found that the truth is always both to a certain extent. Pondering the nature of the truth is where I make the connection to philosophy. I guess I'm naturally stuck on whether this could be misdirection, or not. I've never seen an alien mushroom shaped building so... I wonder. Again, philosophical in nature, IMO.


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Re: The Disclosure Project [Re: UnderNose]
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Hey thanks. I hear ya.


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