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Re: Strain Forum [Re: CureCat]
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CureCat said:
Cervantes said:
What am I missing here?



If anything, I would say that you are missing the point that "strain", as compared with phenotypes, are not interchangeable.

"Strain" is a vague term out of context.  If one fails to define what they mean by "strain" then multiple interpretations may arise, leading to a lot of the misuse and confusion over the word, as seen in a lot of strain discussion threads. 

By failing to identify any qualitative meaning to the label, vendors may take the opportunity to invent new strains, and often describe a list of desirable traits that may or may not actually be passed down to future generations. 
Some vendors may not actually even be aware of the debate, and those who are find themselves between a rock and a hard place, whether to decide what really counts as a strain and risk losing business, or to play competitively with the 'strain game' like all of the other vendors, since the n00bs eat that shit up.

When someone says "a cube is a cube", what is usually meant is that all of these "strains" are really contrived and do not represent an actual clade within the species P. cubensis.  Some may have different attributes, but they can all cross with one another.

I have spent a lot of time considering this.  I am not inclined to argue your points, since I agree for the most part, however I think that you have constructed some sort of working definition for the term that is not shared by myself or RR or any of the "cube is a cube" proponents.

So then, how would you define "strain"?  If we are going to continue this debate, I think we need to establish some rules of the game.




A definition. Maybe- An established phenotype expressed most indefinitly within a species.

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Re: Strain Forum [Re: george castanza]
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Here are my updated 'Strain/Race' profiles... this has taken forever and a day to complete.

No doubt there are some mistakes, if anybody is interested please take a look and let me know what changes should be made... or if I need to add any info or missing strain/race profiles.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10512066&page=0&vc=1#10512066


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Re: Strain Forum [Re: Rose]
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WOW!  Now that is a race or "strain" thread!  With your permission, and no objections from the other cult mods or admins, I would like to move that thread to the cult forum stickie it, and drop the currant strain thread.  Any takers?

I did notice one typo, you said mush when you meant to say much.

The Truth About Multispore vs. Strain Isolation:
Agar allows you to work specifically with your spores but it costs more money and takes mush more time. However, proper agar work will give you consistency from one grow to the next.

I kind of felt like we owed something like this to anyone who ever paid fifty plus dollars for a spore syringe before they found this site.  Thanks for doing all the work T, if you ever need anything, pm me.

This is a work of art and should go a long way in stopping the spread of misinformation.  Super props to you Cervantes!  :bow:


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Re: Strain Forum [Re: george castanza]
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Just give me a day or two. I am really close, but I am still making some major changes to my FAQ post and my Cubensis Profiles posts. It'll take me a few more hours, and proofing before I am happy with it.

In fact, I posted MANY more additions just moments before I saw your latest post in this thread.

I'll fix the mush. Freudian slip. :wink:

Thanks for your kind words.


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Edited by Rose (06/22/09 09:25 PM)

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Re: Strain Forum [Re: Rose]
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Yeah that's a cool thread he's got going there. :smile:


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