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Invisiblemycofile
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Serious request for a new forum/section
    #597568 - 04/03/02 11:44 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I think the shroomery needs a new section or forum. It has been discussed repeatedly in the time I've been here. I would like to see a grow log section, a lab notes section type thing. Several people are already running logs in the pictures forum as well as occasionaly posting grow accounts in cultivation or advanced. I feel like those sections are for people to post questions most of the time and a section dedicated only to complete accounts of growing from spore to fruit would be nice.

The new section would be fully moderated, with posts not being detailed enough moved to the correct forum immediately. Only very thorough and completely detailed accounts of cultivation would be posted here. With or without pictures. All the relevant information would be right there in one post. The teks in the grow/find section are great, but something always goes wrong. How people successfully deal with the small things would be a great help to many growers. Not to mention the fact that once you reach a certain level, you don't even use teks. You just use a conglomeration of methods you know will work to grow shrooms.

I think that this type of section would be good for the shroomery not only to show people all the ways to grow successfully, but also what to not do. Detailed accounts of successes are important, but detailed analysis of failure is also important. This type of forum could well make the notion of "teks" obsolete.

What would be ideal would be to have forms made for each cultivator to take notes as they grow. If somebody would like to make some spreadsheets or something, we might make it very easy to share all notes from each experiment. In the meantime, I think a section for those of us who have very detailed notes anyway, or those of us who like to make photo logs would be a great asset to the community.

Or at least a section to archive such posts to. The posts could be made to either cultivation board, or the picture forum. A moderator could be chosen for an archive section and when someone thinks they've made a worthy post (or someone else has) they notify the archive moderator who then immortalizes the (possibly edited) thread in an archive somewhere with only other such reports. Maybe even in the grow/find section rather than on the BB

Feedback?


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #597575 - 04/03/02 11:51 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yeah, some system of organization would be needed. Not only key words like dung or grain, but also success/failure etc. Depending on how it's set up (archive or BB) would depend on the type of organization.

I've been planning to just start my own site for this type of stuff for about a year now. If some people would like to put forth the effort, that might be better to get it done just right. I just don't have the time to design a new website and probably won't for a while. So, might as well try to get something like this here if we can.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #599115 - 04/04/02 10:22 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I think this is a great idea. However, we seem to have a lot of forums allready.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #599530 - 04/05/02 10:37 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

i also think this would be a great idea, i am interested in learning how people mix their teks with others and it seems many people do. they tend to get better results. i work 2 jobs and don't have time to be experimenting, but it would be great if some people shared their information on it. very good suggestion mycofile..


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #600091 - 04/05/02 09:48 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

just adding my voice of agreement...


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #601951 - 04/08/02 06:42 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I'd love to see a Grow Log Forum.

This would be a great way for people to follow along.
I think this would be a great teaching guide.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: ]
    #604157 - 04/10/02 09:41 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

If there is no desire for adding another forum (even such a good one as I request), perhaps there simply needs to be an archive for grow logs. People will do them, and they shouldn't be lost as more recent crap burries them. Just save them to their own part of the grow/find section once all conversation has ceased.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #605268 - 04/11/02 10:26 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

well first the fourm idea is a step in the write direction, this would be the way to do it.

dont use any type of fourm software. write the code to setup a growlog section to the website. anyone could veiw it, you would need to login to edit the info... KINDA like those journal sites just setup for the shroomery. Its not a very hard thing to code, the server already uses PHP and has the easiest database software to code php for installed.. so it should be really easy. Ive made a site similar to what would be needed and it only took a couple hundred lines, and just cause i was lazy three pages. (although if i could have easilly made it all with one page)... maybe ill reset it up and drop the link in here one day


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #605277 - 04/11/02 10:29 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I'm warming up to this idea, I hate to add more forums, but once our new server is up nobody will mind anyhow.

Did you want the forum to be very specific, like only Grow logs, or could you add anything else to this forum?


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Thor]
    #605287 - 04/11/02 10:37 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

what about all the incorrect posting we have allready? growlogs, if pictoral, should be in pictures.. advanced or novel tec's go in advanced.. etc..
we allready have alot of forums..
perhaps a refinement of what we have rather than just adding more?


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #608931 - 04/15/02 09:56 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I'd like to see "Son of Suggestion Forum" or "Suggestion Forum 2"



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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Learyfan]
    #609381 - 04/15/02 07:14 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Fine, if people don't like the idea of adding another forum, then do it some other way. The point would be to share data. At some point just past that of a newbie, a grower becomes a true cultivator and forgets about teks per se. You just grow all the ways you know will work, mix 'em up, modify 'em, do with what you have on hand. Everybody does it.

For that matter, what would be perfect wouldn't be a forum at all, but maybe a little more complicated. You know those lab forms in the back of TMC? Turn those into a set of web forms for people to fill out. It would encourage people to take better notes, and would be a tremendous resource. Every cultivator who takes notes and has been at it for a while learns something everytime s/he flips through the lab notebook. Imagine having access to all the most advanced cultivators notes. That is more along the lines of the website I was thinking of starting, but not having the time for. anybody want to roll with that idea?


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #609383 - 04/15/02 07:17 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

We really should at the absolute very least have a method and system for archiving these things in an organized manner. At least the good ones. Then the pictorials would stay in the picture forum and the pictureless would go in their respective forum, they could just be archived in a organized easily accessible manner.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #609722 - 04/16/02 04:59 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Well,

I totally agree with you.

A grow log would be a great thing.
Hopefully with the new server coming soon.
This will become a reality.

*crosses fingers*


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #610972 - 04/17/02 02:37 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

just make it already! ..please :smile:


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #611825 - 04/18/02 10:56 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Wow...this is a really good idea.
Either another forum or an archive section specialized in grow logs.
It would be great to include the best ones in the grow/find section. Some growlogs/pictorial are way better than written tek, especially for newbies.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: rebelmoon]
    #611936 - 04/18/02 12:45 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #633094 - 05/16/02 11:23 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

How about it then???
I would like to see a grow log forum.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #654663 - 05/30/02 10:50 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

bump



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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #654782 - 05/31/02 02:12 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

This is a great idea, let's do it!


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #654953 - 05/31/02 04:40 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

one question:

considering the new laws (or lack thereof) that give fbi, etc... the power to look on message boards for people involved in 'terrorist activities' (i.e. drug growing and use) wouldn't this be bad?


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #658673 - 06/02/02 07:32 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

nice point...didn't think of that.



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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Abudiwa]
    #659223 - 06/02/02 02:17 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

then wouldn't a lot of stuff on this board be bad? all the elements of the grow logs seem to exist already, just not in an organized fasion.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #663779 - 06/05/02 06:54 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i agree, would be a good thing ( sorry for stealing the quote martha stewart) i say dumped thunderdome, and put the resources into the grow log forum. not only would it help the poster, but others can see what the next guy is doing, so if they are doing similar research, they can compare notes per say


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Thor]
    #666233 - 06/06/02 02:57 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

"I'm warming up to this idea, I hate to add more forums, but once our new server is up nobody will mind anyhow.


well it looks like the new server's up

i think a grow log forum would be an excellent idea! and if you don't want to do it in a forum, just set up a section of the site similar to the trip reports section where people can add their logs to specified categories (by strain or species). it'd be nice if you could add pictures in those too, of course i've kept a few grow logs thus far (only got a few projects under my belt.. but i'll continue to do so 'cause it's a great reference tool). this one was my first, i'll make an effort to improve:
Mushroom Venture - November/December 2001
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Strain: P.C. Thailand Lipa Yai
Provided By: The Hawks Eye
Substrate: BRF/verm + honey (as per www.shroomwizard.com)
Jars: 12 - 1/2 pint jars (Ball wide-mouth)
Casing: Verm
Innoculation: November 5th, 2001 @ 7pm
Note: Substrate jars sat for one week to observe any would be contams

Observations:
Day 3: Spores have germinated in about half of the jars. Dime size growth in few.
Day 5: All jars show growth at various stages. Added all jars to an aquarium with
water heated to 86? to speed colonization.
Day 10: Most jars are apx 25% colonized. One jar with only quarter-size growth.
Day 15: Ripped off tape on top of jars. Most jars apx 35% colonized. Also removed
saran wrap cover on aquarium. Will replace evaporated water every 2 days.
Day 20: Jars are between 60-90% colonized. No contams.
Day 25: Jars birthed before full colonization due to too much moisture. I suspect
the dry verm layer absorbed moisture evaporating from the warm water bath.
Lost one-half cake to purple contam that smells like wine. Most cakes
at 85%+ colonized.

Casing Date: November 30th, 2001 @ 7pm
Casing Observations: 0.5" verm base / 1.5" substrate / 0.25" casing layer
Day 1: Covered in foil.
Day 2: After 48 hours about 10 patches of mycelium (~1-2cm) poking through casing.
Sprinkled fresh casing over patches, removed foil, placed in terrarium.
Day 4: Mycelium has begun to overtake casing layer again. 12 hr light on. Fanning
three times daily followed by a mist to boost humidity.
Day 5: Mycelium fuzz poping out evenly throughout all three casings. Still fanning
3-4 times daily.
Day 7: Mycelium growth continues. I have stopped misting and am fanning every 3-4
hours, day & night. Light on for apx 15 hours/day.
Day 8: Pins! Three-pin cluster (quite large) on one casing. Hypal knots forming
on other two casings. One small pin on second casing. Fan every 2-3 hours.
*Day 9: That three-pin cluster... gettin mighty big
20+ pins total on all casings. Fanning every 3 hours.
Day 10: Pins, pins everywhere. One casing with a very even pinset, others are
scattered. Fanning every 4 hours.
Day 11: Cluster harvested (6.9g wet wt.) 2 shrooms. Many pins devloping.
Day 12: One shroom harvested (4.9g wet wt.). Got a farm goin! =D
Day 13: Harvested 34.5g wet wt. (3am). Largest specimen was 13.8g wet. Harvested
29.7g wet wt. (1pm). 4.1g wet wt. (3:45p) 22.6g wet wt. (6:40p)
Day 14: Harvested 23.7g wet wt. (12p). Harvested remaining 61.1g wet wt. (6p)
Patched bare casings with new damp verm, misted, covered with foil.
Sitting in terrarium for 6-7 days while I go to Oregon.
Day 23: Trich on one casing, the other two are alive with nasty albino deformed
shrooms... i'm trashin this operation out of lazyness. on to the eq's!

Flush 1 Harvest Date: 12/11-12/14
Flush 1 Wet/Dry Weight: 201.3g/25.7g

Total Wet Weight: SAA
Total Dry Weight: SAA

so how 'bout it?



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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: geokills]
    #666784 - 06/06/02 11:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Very nice geo!!!!!

that is a great example!

some with pictures would be great too!


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #676022 - 06/13/02 04:30 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i agree with the idea that grow log forum is a much needed and almost neccesary addition to this community. a grow log forum would allow newbs (such as myself) to look at a mass number of grow logs to get a better idea of what to expect. myself, ive been researching mushrooms for 2 years now, both cultivation and use, but am just now getting a started, and i think a grow log forum would definately help me, and would help me post a grow log of my research.

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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #676296 - 06/13/02 08:24 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Bling bling.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Thor]
    #676353 - 06/13/02 08:59 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Kudos......you rock!!


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #4596408 - 08/29/05 08:02 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

Hehe, just a silly little bump to say thanks to the shroomery. Growlogs are now a vital part of the community, and they are archived to boot. Thanks, I love reading them.


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #4604096 - 08/31/05 02:40 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

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Hehe, just a silly little bump to say thanks to the shroomery.  Growlogs are now a vital part of the community, and they are archived to boot.  Thanks, I love reading them.




Couldn't agree more, hurray!  :heart:


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: mycofile]
    #4605929 - 08/31/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

you did good!~

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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Thor]
    #4605959 - 08/31/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

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Quote:

mycofile said:
Hehe, just a silly little bump to say thanks to the shroomery.  Growlogs are now a vital part of the community, and they are archived to boot.  Thanks, I love reading them.




Couldn't agree more, hurray!  :heart:




indeed i dont read to many of them but back in the day i always used them as a guide. :thumbup: :smirk:


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Serious request for a new forum/section [Re: Roadkill]
    #4616368 - 09/03/05 12:36 PM (18 years, 21 days ago)

when doesn't he?!


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