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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2251339 - 01/19/04 05:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I have no problem with this decision...if a thread is worth saving, it will be... :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2251428 - 01/19/04 06:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Alright... sounds good.. but what if someone wants to bring a classic old thread back from the dead... is there any way for a thread to be brought out of the read-only database and back to active?


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums &amp; Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2251603 - 01/19/04 07:30 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums &amp; Post Expiration [Re: Frog]
    #2251668 - 01/19/04 08:12 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

S&P is getting affected, Frog, just not as heavily as OTD and suchlike.

But it seems alright to me.
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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: Shroomism]
    #2251728 - 01/19/04 08:37 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

> is there any way for a thread to be brought out of the read-
> only database and back to active?

See my above post; but in short I can't answer that question conclusively and you'll have to wait for one of the smart ones to stop by :wink:


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums &amp; Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2252635 - 01/19/04 09:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Just save every thread that a guy named fireworks_god made, and we'll be fine.. burn the rest! :grin:

Posts in S and P tends to have some content most of the time, so it is good that they are only being archived, not deleted. :laugh:
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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums &amp; Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2252806 - 01/19/04 10:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Why not just downgrade the MySQL version ? I know for a fact there are older MySQL versions that can and would be able to hold the load of this site. There are sites many times as large as Shroomery running mySQL.

I love this site because of the span of knowledge here. I frequently read back many months worth of posts. I would be seriously sad if these were taken away from me. Despite the fact that old important threads will be kept. Information will be lost. What is this site good for if not for archiving knowledge.


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2252826 - 01/19/04 10:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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geokills said:
> is it possible to switch it back to an open thread?

As the two databases (read-only & the regular one) will be separate from each other; I do not think this is possible via any conventional methods. One of the technical admins can correct me if I'm wrong. That being said, if there are particular old threads you'd like to stay in the active database, provide the forum mods a link quickly. As stated, we'll give this roughly two weeks to go into effect.

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simplemachine said:
So does this mean the shroomery will be up more often?


While archiving does not directly relate to our MySQL problems, I believe it will help prevent some of the crashes that stem particularly from the search function since there won't be nearly as much load to run through.

Our SQL errors as of late are due in large part to a universal problem with MySQL 4.0.16 running on large databases. If you sleuth the technical support forums for bulletin board software across the board, you will see that there are a lot of frusterated people out there on large databases that aren't vibing with this version of MySQL. Trimming the database should definitely help some of our problems, though it seems that we may also have corrupt tables in our DB - which I cannot comment further on as I don't have a complete understanding of what that entails.





Can we get an explanation from the technical admins on how this is going to work software wise?

Also, there are many sites running the exact same setup here, with larger databases and many more people connecting simmultaniously. They don't have the problems you guys are...


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: c0wb0yfr0mh3ll]
    #2253061 - 01/19/04 11:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

You are correct, many other sites are not having the same measure of problems as we are.  In fact, we did downgrade to MySQL 4.0.13 just recently however we are still experiencing these problems.  If the technical admins had a solid idea of what is wrong, I'm sure they would tell you but I'm afraid we are really scratching our heads (if not pulling our hair out) over this bump in the road.  This is one reason why we are implementing archiving in order to trim the database size in hopes that some of our bugs will be eradicated in the process. 

This is whacky no doubt, but Vampire999, Seuss, and Ythan are really bustin' their ass tryin' to figure this out - so please just give them time.  They're pros and I've seen how hard they've been working on this problem while gaining some progress but not being able to tackle the core issues at hand.. whatever those may be we are trying to figure out.  Patience please.  :crazy:


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums &amp; Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2253495 - 01/20/04 01:46 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2258290 - 01/21/04 08:32 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I think the admin has done a fine job in coming to this decision.

Thank you!

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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2260086 - 01/21/04 11:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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This is whacky no doubt, but Vampire999, Seuss, and Ythan are really bustin' their ass tryin' to figure this out - so please just give them time.




hey, it's all good - thanks all ya'll for the hard work :thumbup:

Plus, how often do people really pull up 9 month old threads? Here and there, sure - but mostly, we just start new threads. The benefits of cutting out the fat outweighs the ability to drag up old threads - in my opinion. We just need to be sure to request the archiving of important threads with useful info & memorable exchanges.

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# The Pub: All threads older than 2 months will be archived in a read-only format. Remaining threads will be subject to expiration after a period of 90 days of inactivity. Any thread may be kept indefinitely at the discretion of the forum moderators.

# The Marketplace: All threads older than 2 months will be archived in a read-only format. Remaining threads will be subject to expiration after a period of 90 days of inactivity. Any thread may be kept indefinitely at the discretion of the forum moderators.




Wouldnt it make sense to further reduce the inactive days for the marketplace? I mean who needs 2 month old auctions - most of them close anyways after a week or two. Then give some more extra time to the pub (whatever amount of time that would makes things equal) where the threads tend to have a bit longer life than the marketplace.


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: Xochitl]
    #2260697 - 01/22/04 02:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

> reduce the inactive days for the marketplace?

Well we wanted to have an accessible record for past transactions in the event of a discrepancy. However, you may be right in that 90 days is a bit excessive. That number may be lowered.


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2291298 - 02/01/04 03:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Most threads have now been expired according to the above announcement.
They can be found at www.shroomery.org/archives

If you have links to old threads in your favorites, and they can not be found , you will have to make a small change to the url in order to access the thread directly:
If the old url was
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1262642
Then the archived one is
http://www.shroomery.org/archives/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1262642


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: geokills]
    #2294720 - 02/03/04 01:21 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see why an active thread would "expire" after a certain period of time..

When you say "a thread is 90 days old" do you mean 90 days no matter what since the START of the thread, or 90 days since anybody posts to it?


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Re: Announcement: Archival of Five Forums & Post Expiration [Re: Strumpling]
    #2294730 - 02/03/04 01:24 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

90 days since the last post.


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