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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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strang gay insecurity thing
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lately when i've been on psychedelics (and of course this is a reflection of my reality) in misinterpret straight people as being gay and try to prove to people that i'm straight. btw, i'm almost 100% sure it's not a closet gay thing... i'm pretty secure about this. i'm trying to figure out how to get rid of this habit - maybe first by not giving in to making a point that i'm not gay (i do this usually by commenting on girls). i guess one place to start is also by thinking why this might be the case. i have a few ideas... there was a point where everybody in college thought i was gay, which was kinda annoying. i dance, and i'm friendly... figures. i also used to have this thing where i needed the approval of gay men - i was insecure about how i looked and needed the attention of gay guys, to the point i'd flirt and all. i remember once i had an acid trip, and i thought this guy who was touchy feely with me was trying to rape me - had PTSD for a half year. i asked myself why this was the case, assuming it had to do with a repressed memory, though later on psychedelic i thought back to it and realized this was just a cover-up explination for something else. anyway, i remember a time where i assumed people understood my sexual orientation, i made good friends with gay guys because they were good people, and i think this should be a normal state i want to be in.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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you got the gays!

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
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Don't fight it, man. You are a raging homosexual, so what are you trying to prove? Just give in to it, buy some KY and start hitting the dark rooms and glory holes

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #3]
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not sure if you guys are just being jokers... but you see, i'm actually hetro. when i read your comments, i have no resistance or anger. simple a "nah, nah i'm not." can you perhaps give me some constructive feedback given this is the case?i have this strange mindreading thing, where i wonder, "does he think i'm gay." should i look for the cause or just practice stop doing it?

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Take #3's advice. Try it out, you'll probably end up liking it.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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You're clearly doing this because you are worried someone will think you are gay, or you will be "found out".

Maybe you are bisexual?  It seems you are very open and comfortable with all sorts of people including gay men.  Maybe you should be open to the possibility of yourself being bisexual and perhaps try some sexual fun with a bi/gay guy.  Experiment.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Why do you insist on fighting your feelings, OP? :frown:

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
but you see, i'm actually hetro.




Dude, I've never heard anyone EXCEPT a gay person say the word "hetero".

They even joked about that on Will and Grace one time.

You have to be trolling.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Show the fly the way out of the bottle : you're bi, enjoy.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #7]
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I have a theory that everyone is a little bisexual- am I wrong? :shrug:

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Wherever you are, you're somewhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

although it's too simple, you need way more dimensions.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #8]
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dude i think you just want to be accepted by your peers so bad you think 2 much. If your not attracted to cocks then you know your not a fag.

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Re: strang gay insecurity thing [Re: Anonymous #1]
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You probably want gay people as your friends but are paranoid they will think you are into them sexually. If you are always concerned people will think you are gay, then there is some underlying insecurity there. It doesn't mean you're gay, just insecure. The psychedelics probably make you tune in to the underlying sexuality in male bonding, and you are intimidated by that sexuality and feel the need to assert your heterosexuality.

My advice to you is twofold. One, do psychedelics a bit less. Or two, do some soul searching on this issue. Human relations take place on many levels, and psychedelics help you to see things you wouldn't otherwise see. When your male friend hands you a drink, or a joint, there could be a moment your hands touch, your eyes lock. And there is an underlying sexuality in that moment. It doesn't mean you two are going to fuck, just as if someone stares angrily at you it doesn't mean they're going to kill you. Thoughts, momentary feelings, are far from actions. But there is a strong sexuality in male bonding, particularly when it includes drugs. And when you are on psychedelics, you are tuning into that sexuality like a radio tunes a channel. You see things you wouldn't normally see, and it scares you.

So the question is, why does it scare you? Were you molested as a child? Are you afraid of getting anally raped? Are you intimidated by your friends? Are they bigger and stronger than you?

What you need to do is give in and accept this sexuality, understanding that exists in a sphere of thought not action, and that it is ok. It is ok to feel close to your friends, to love them even. And to allow them to love you. It is ok to get high with them and discuss your deepest feelings, or just talk about random stuff, and feel that intense closeness and bonding with them. And it is ok to touch them incidentally, and not hate it, and not pull away in fear.

It might actually help you to do something sexual with a guy, even just once. Not because I think you're gay. But because if you did something overtly sexual with one of your friends, it would teach you not to fear it. And that might help you overcome this.

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