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OfflineShtoops
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What substrate is recomended?
    #1031986 - 11/07/02 11:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Alright... I wanna step up from BRF / verm, what is the best substrate to use for better yield, I was thinking about using Whole rice for the substrate, mixing cooked whole rice w/ brown rice flower maybe? and.. maybe add some other ingredience.. what do yall think?


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Shtoops]
    #1032032 - 11/07/02 12:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

some people seem to be happy with the alien substrate recipe posted in another thread in here somewhere. my friend is colonizing some now and will report results later.


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Shtoops]
    #1032061 - 11/07/02 12:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

get a PC and move up to grians/millet/birdseed


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Shtoops]
    #1035014 - 11/08/02 04:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

millet - dont waste your time with the rest!


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1035031 - 11/08/02 05:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

is millet better than rye?


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1035053 - 11/08/02 05:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I've had nothing but success with rye.
Can't comment on birdseed though.


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: zeta]
    #1035412 - 11/08/02 09:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

when yall suggest these grains, are you talking about using them powdered to replace brown rice flour in cakes? or do you mean to use as spawn? or do you use the whole grains in cakes? i guess i'm just looking for a pointer to some recipes for use in casings...


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Bilge]
    #1035478 - 11/08/02 10:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Bilge, yes, yes, yes, and yes... Actually I quit from BRF a long time ago... I only use rye flour if I'm going the vermiculite route. Also, rye seed and rye grain work really well. I use whole rye seed for spawn and for cakes which later go into straight wet perlite casings. I also highly recommend a 50/50 jar of whole grain brown rice and rye seed. I've had the most success with rye - flour seeds and grain.


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Shtoops]
    #1035493 - 11/08/02 10:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Millet / Milo is great , easy to obtain , and cheap . Provides a good nutrient base .
But there is no need for rice flour when using grain , have no idea what would happen if you mixed some in as a binding agent . Once fully colonized grain does stay together .
Good Luck
May the Mushroom Goddess bless all your endeavors ! :cool:

No do not powder grain , leave it whole ! :wink:
 


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: tripndicular]
    #1035547 - 11/08/02 11:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

thanks yall. right now my friend is trying alien substrate which is whole brown rice and quinoa with a little bit of ground other grains and verm. next time will be straight whole grains.


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1037770 - 11/09/02 12:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Out of all the substrates ive tried for cubensis, millet was the only one that consistantly produced potent fruits - rye, brf, grains, straw were all crap - manure isnt bad, but millet is best!


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: Shtoops]
    #1037940 - 11/09/02 01:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Do a search for 'grain tek' there are a number of recipes listed.


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Re: What substrate is recomended? [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1038513 - 11/09/02 10:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Take the next step and colonize millet or rye grain but then take the final step and use it to innoculate horse manure compost.

There is no arguing with 70 years of commercial mushroom growing worldwide. Tthis is what they use because maximum yields and quality is important to professional businesses.


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