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Monotub Casing or Spawn update+pics
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Swim wants to take a swing at a bulk grow. He has grown on and off for a few years trying pf, casings, prints and such. He wants to try out some monotubs but had one question. He was wondering if you can use rye and case it or does it have to be wbs with straw/horse in a monotub? He can get both rye and wbs so he thought if he can case rye in a monotub it will be a bit quicker then wbs. If not and he decides to use rye anyways he will just use aluminum or rubbermaid containers and use a greenhouse.
On a side note. He has only tried 3 strains. Hawaii, creeper and puerto rican. He only tried H and C once and has just stuck with PR the last couple years since he thinks its better. He wanted to try a fast growing one with good yeilds this time so he was thinking cambodian. Does cambodian work well with these methods? Whats the best casing mix for cambodian?

Swim thanks you.


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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Nice job on having success with PR's. I always had a bit of a problem with them for some reason.

It's usually not advised to case straight grain or seed for cubes as they do not hold an optimal amount of moisture. You can do it, but you'll have much more success spawning to any bulk sub like manure, straw or coir. Coir is nice to start out with as the consistency is easy to work with and it's hard to botch the moisture content.

This is a great tek for coir. What i started with.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9289857/an/0/page/1


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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I don't think it matters at all whether you use WBS or rye, I prefer rye just because there is too much variety in bird seed mixtures. You don't need to case monotubs, I have seen pictures of cased bulk grows vs non cased and the yield was almost identical (though I don't have a link for that on hand), try search cased vs non-cased monotubs. If you do case I'd use the usual 50/50 mix with hydrated lime and all that. I have a monotub going, and I don't plan on casing my monotubs firstly because it makes a mess, and also because my substrate is going right up to the air holes.

Also, you don't -need- to use straw/horse, I have seen some pretty ginormous grows on coir, and of course cow poo will also work. I would also advise Orissa India for a monotub grow. Its my first time working with it, but the only pics I have ever seen have been huge flushes of huge shrooms, though it isn't what I would call a 'fast colonizer' by any means. Hope this helps!


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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Regarding casing vs. no casing in monotubs, here is a great thread to reference by a trusted cultivator.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9466436/page/2


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: ano]
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Swim thanks you both. He loves PR and never really had any trouble with them, mabey cause he would add some earthworm castings to the cakes but they take forever to colonize. So he wanted a fast acting one as he plans on moving to the west coast in a couple months. And from the sounds of it swim can have some cam in a month.
He thought of using straw/horse because most teks mention straw and he can get horse manure for free around now and he was confused cause he didnt see anybody using straw with rye so he didnt know if straw could be used with rye. Swim just read about the jiffy mix so he may check the store for that since most stores around here stopped selling verm because of the asbestos problem. -


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Edited by weissewolf (04/10/09 12:26 PM)

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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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After reading the bulk coir swim thinks he will take the 5 pf pint jars he got and use this as his first experiment with a monotub instead of just casing them in a greenhouse. He was wondering how big of a tub should he use for 5 pint jars? Swim thanks ya again.


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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From my current grow log in my sig, I used four 1 quart jars in an 18 gallon monotub, with a 10 pound bag of highmountaincompost poo, and that fit it almost perfectly. Another quart in there would have been better obviously, but the substrate is colonizing like a champ after a week. Im hoping to post some pics in a couple weeks of an awesome flush :wink:


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: c1dh3d]
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Thanks C1dh3d. Ill take a look at it.


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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Cool, best of luck to ya on the grow :thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: c1dh3d]
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a few times trouble was had with pr, too slow to colonize and took forever to pin

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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: anakin3197]
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Just as long as swim has paid real close attention to sterility he never had trouble with PR. But they are picky fuckers.


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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Swims PR's are nearly colonized. He is going to try it uncased with coir/coffee/verm/cow manure as the sub. So he will post what happens.


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Re: Monotub Casing or Spawn [Re: weissewolf]
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It seems the monotub works good for him. Here is a picture I found on the internet of it.
He likes monotubs now. He was even on the unsanitary and impatient side a few times and it still seems to be going good. He spawned early cause the BRF cakes stalled so he thought it was contaminated but he stated they smelled fine. He knows BRF isnt recommended for this method but he didnt plan on doing it this way till he had some BRF already done. He crushed them up and mixed with coir/coffee/verm and some moo-nure from the store. Its a compost so he was alittle worried but it worked fine. He said they are in a basement without much protection other then cleaning the workspace with lysol everyday. They stalled after fully colonizing but he just dunked them and then 3 days later they started pinning. Im sure he will post a follow up. He plans on doing a 4 strain test soon using different subs.


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