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I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue...
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I live in florida where the cow pastures are plentiful. But the difficult part is finding one thats secluded to look for mushrooms. My brother never tripped before so i told him lets drive around a bit and see if we can find a field thats safe. We drove and drove and ended up out in the middle of no where which is good because its secluded. I spotted this one spot that looked perfect cause the nearest house was a mile away and the field had lots of shady spots and was extremely damp. I run out there and boom, mushrooms. So its really exciting for a first timer and finding your own reliable spot. Anyways i pick from this spot several times and was all good besides some passing cars and bananna spiders. So this one morning my friend calls me and asks me if i could go pick some and i was like sure. Cause i think its fun. It was about noon and i head out there. I get to my spot and its a gold mine. Huge Caps everywhere. And i start running around nabbing these bitches. So right as i about to get done, i hear a car coming up so i duck low next to a tree...and my heart stops...Its a god damn cop and he saw my car parked on the side of the road. Right now my hearts beating so hard i could hardly hear anything but the blood gushing the my neck. I throw the bag down and fly through the barbwire fense with no care of the barbs. I just had to get the fuck out the field. So he circles and pulls up behind my car. I was just like "My lifes over". Ive never been arrested cause my dad is retired military now FBI and on top of that i just signed up for the military(Delayed Entry). And i know mushrooms are not screened in military drug testing so thats why i was wanting to do them. So as he pulls up behind my car i walk out to the road from the bushes along the barbwire fence and wave to him like "thats my car". So i walk up to my car and stand there awkwardly as im waiting for him to get out of his car. The whole time there was only one word going through my head repeatability. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. He gets out and it was seriously like watching your executioner coming to pull the switch. During this panic i had a to think of what i was going to say but i was so scared my mind was blank. So here i am standing here like a classic showdown but i know he has the quicker trigger finger. He walks up with the heavy steps of overly polished shoes, adjusting his belt from his bulbous gut and looks at me and says "Watcha doing out here". And when im that scared, luckily Ive been gifted or more skilled to come up with a reasonable answer quickly especially with a military upbringing. Without hesitating sub conscientiously the words "I pulled over to take a leak sir". And soon as those words hit his ears firing right back he says "Really, well i drove passed here 10 minutes ago and your car was here". Fucking doomed right?! Well firing right back at him i said "Actually sir i was shitting and i know its unlawful. I apologize sir." Nice recovery i thought but i'm not so dumb to think im off the hook. So he says "Could'nt you of pulled over at a gas station?". I reply "Well sir it was an emergency and there isnt a gas station miles from here." Feeling like i was a first grader again having to explain why i had to piss without asking permission. He then asks me where i live. And where this was all taking place was a good distance from where i live so natraully he then asks me why i was out there. Of course like anyone being interrogated by a cop i was like "I was heading to a friends house". With luck on my side which would of been a direct step on a land mine was if he followed that reply if a "Oh yah, well were does he live?". Then i would of been completely screwed. Now after bashing my way through that interrogation he says well i need to frisk you, so i agreed. LUCKILY i did not stick mushrooms in my pockets otherwise that would be a dead give away if he pulled out pieces of cow shit. But i had a machete out there with me and that was tossed with the bag of mushrooms and the case was in my pocket. He pulls it out and says "wheres the machete?". "At home" i blurted out. Now i made it through that he asks for my Drivers License. I give him it and he goes back to his car and leaves me standing there for about 20 mins then comes back "I'm not getting anything on this". His system was out of service range. "Shit, another obstacle" i thought. He calls back up and i was like "GREAT, now two damn pigs!!" Then he walks back to his car to run it again. Boom, it ran through and with my clean nose maybe its the express lane from here to being on my way. I noticed he was being alot nicer after that too. The second cop arrives, he fist pounds him and gives him a thumbs up on me so they chatted a bit and he was gone. I thought this looks good if he's calling off the dogs. He explains why he has to take a report just in case if anything turns up just in case if i was out there to ditch a dead body or something. Then he gets to my description and he has to put down my tattoos. I have quite a few but the one that caught his attention was the classic car i have done. Then god smiled down on me to give me a break. He's a muscle car junkie as well! Then i struck up conversation to detour this whole situation talking about my dads classic, then he starts bragging about this ol chev hes restoring. Then chatted up more about how i was going into the military da da dah. He then snapped a photo of me shook my hand and i was on my way. Now out of my entire lifetime, ive never felt fear so chilling so it was almost euphoric when i turned on my car to leave. It was definatley a drive home where the stereos off and not even noticing. It's disappointing to have lost that spot, i even sometimes think about going out there again with some binoculars just to pin point where the mushrooms are at rather than running around out there. But why do that when you can just be patient and grow some right? HA Anyways thats my story.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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Great story, good thing your quick on your toes lol


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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I'd hide and wait them out or sneak away and find another way home.

Later if they ask about it I would say my car died there and I had to walk the rest of the way home.

Always best to park a half mile up the road I guess.  Damn paranoid cops, sounds like no one called you in and they responded anyway.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Whatever has become of civil rights? In Germany cops can't just search you unless they have reason to suspect that you have done something, but they need to be able to confront you with what it is that they think you have done. Simply saying "I need to search you" is completely illegal. They can't do it and they can't snap a fucking photo of you either, unless they have your consent. Your car was also parked next to a public road, right? That's friggin harassment in my eyes, dude. If that sort of thing is legal in the US then I am really glad I live elsewhere. Police state, that's what it is. Along with all the "homeland security" laws you can basically kiss personal freedom and privacy good bye. Fucking sucks.


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: German Kahuna]
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German Kahuna said:
Whatever has become of civil rights? In Germany cops can't just search you unless they have reason to suspect that you have done something, but they need to be able to confront you with what it is that they think you have done. Simply saying "I need to search you" is completely illegal. They can't do it and they can't snap a fucking photo of you either, unless they have your consent. Your car was also parked next to a public road, right? That's friggin harassment in my eyes, dude. If that sort of thing is legal in the US then I am really glad I live elsewhere. Police state, that's what it is. Along with all the "homeland security" laws you can basically kiss personal freedom and privacy good bye. Fucking sucks.


Fortunately that happens here alot and with much worse cases being reported, like that 92 yr old black woman getting shot and weed planted in her house. I mean, what the hell is that?


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: chobumms]
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its funny i looked at the top of your post and there is a link for toilet paper on ebay,great story

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: dd12783]
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Well unfortunately its almost easier to go along with it. Its amazining how corrupted the cops are here in hillsborough. And if you dont believe me watch this
People have absolutely no rights. I'm enlisted with the armed forces and this is the kind of country i fight for?

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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Wow. That's seriously fucked up. I know that some cops go on a power trip every now and then, knowing that they can treat you like shit while you have to remain nice to them, but that's seriously fucked up.


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: German Kahuna]
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Whatever has become of civil rights? In Germany cops can't just search you unless they have reason to suspect that you have done something


Its like that in the US too, however this cop was probably acting lawfully because he was investigating the crime of trespassing or drug possession.

Since the OP was doing both those things, you can't really argue that he shouldn't have been stopped.

It may have been a good idea to politely decline his offer to search you since he didn't have any probable cause to do that.  But that sort of asserting your rights typically doesn't go over as well in the deep south as it would in say, California.  Its also a good idea to decline his invitation to be interviewed - Unless its a normal traffic stop, the first words out of your mouth should be "Are you detaining me or am I free to go?"  He very well may detain you but then he needs to justify why he did that, and if he didn't have "reasonable suspicion" then anything that comes out of the interview can be suppressed in court.  If you don't ask if you are free to go, they can sit around and question you all day until they come across a violation of the law.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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My question is, Since the cop didnt see me out in the field, does that still give him the probable cause? It just pisses me off cause rather to protect and serve its more like monitor and harass. Why was imediatley treated as if i was a felon rather than to see if i needed help? They just look around for some kids to push around cause more than likely they were fucking nerds back in highschool that got picked on so its their turn now. I have NEVER had a police officer help me. I'll even tell you all my encounters thats bullshit. Once i me and a couple friends were at my apartment that i paid rent for had a cop banging at my door cause my tv was too loud and the upstair neighbors are ass bags. We were drinking and we werent 21 so he made all of us go outside barefoot in the parking lot and made us stand shoulder to shoulder while barking at us. I had black and blonde hair at the time so he calls me "Hey you, Fucking skunk head" while his partner chuckles. While repeatably insulting me and my friends, they get emergency calls and just leaves us standing there. Another occasion me and some friends went to a house party and basically 5 minutes in cops show up, with nothing to drink they made us sit there for 2 hours anyways then ordered me and my friend to go outside and change their tire cause they drove over a nail when they pulled in. He didnt ask he simply walked in and pointed to me and my friend and said "You and You, outside with me!" ANOTHER time is when my truck broke down on the side of an Interstate and i had no cell phone i watched 2 state troopers and a sheriff drive right passed me an and my GF. So all im trying to say the authorities here are shit and it makes me sick.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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I can relate to this story.  I made up the "I was relieving myself." once.  It worked that time!

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"Actually sir i was shitting and i know its unlawful. I apologize sir."


heehee and then,

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shook my hand and i was on my way


Whoa no way I'd be shaking your hand after you said you took a dump in the middle of nowhere."


haha good read though!:thumbup:


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: shroomgatherer]
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Parking a car near a cow field can be considered as a suspicious vehicle giving the cop the right to question you. A cop can frisk you for his personal safety while questioning you. He doesn't have to have any other reason to frisk a person he is questioning. However in order for him to legally search your car he has to have probable cause. When a cop asks your permission to search your car, if you say no, then he will call in a K-9 unit to do a walk around your car. If the dog hits on anything the cops will have probable cause, if the dog doesn't hit on anything, then the cops can't legally do a search.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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If I had been the cop I would've asked to see where your shit pile was and what did you use to wipe your ass.

Glad you made it outta there though.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: caseyroy]
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Since the cop didnt see me out in the field, does that still give him the probable cause?


Good question.  Probable cause is a high standard of evidence, it means "its more likely than not that a crime occurred."  I don't think a car parked near a field means a crime probably happened, so since he didn't see you in the field, he did not have probable cause.

Its a little suspicious though, so he had "reasonable suspicion".  That means he can question you but not search or arrest you.  You should always politely decline this opportunity for questioning because that is how they turn "reasonable suspicion" into "probable cause".  They can't question you without your consent; if you don't consent to it then he either has to take you in based on what he saw, or let you go.

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Why was imediatley treated as if i was a felon rather than to see if i needed help?


Because he knew what you were doing.

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Once i me and a couple friends were at my apartment that i paid rent for had a cop banging at my door cause my tv was too loud and the upstair neighbors are ass bags. We were drinking and we werent 21 so he made all of us go outside barefoot in the parking lot and made us stand shoulder to shoulder while barking at us.


You should not have opened the door.  They are not going to get a warrant to bust down your door for playing the TV too loud, all they can do is bitch and moan and ask you to open the door, its a really bad idea to comply with that demand.  Just let them sit out there and whine, if they really have a reason they will break down your door.  Thats important too because the broken door will keep them from lying later and telling the judge that you opened the door and invited him in to have a look around.

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I had black and blonde hair at the time so he calls me "Hey you, Fucking skunk head" while his partner chuckles.


That is unprofessional.  If the cops insult you you should go right down to the station and file a complaint against the officer. They will take disciplinary action. 

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Another occasion me and some friends went to a house party and basically 5 minutes in cops show up, with nothing to drink they made us sit there for 2 hours anyways


No one should have opened the door.  When having a house party, its always a good idea to keep the door locked so you can screen who comes in.  Put a sign on the door that says "If the cops come, ask to see a warrant.  Do not open the door under any circumstances unless they have a warrant." 

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then ordered me and my friend to go outside and change their tire cause they drove over a nail when they pulled in.


LOL.  You should have filed a complaint against the officer for that one.  A couple weeks later you can stop by the cop shop and ask what was ever done with your compliant.  If its a valid complaint and they didn't take any action, you can file a complaint with the state police and all the cops and their supervisors get in trouble. 

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Parking a car near a cow field can be considered as a suspicious vehicle giving the cop the right to question you. A cop can frisk you for his personal safety while questioning you. He doesn't have to have any other reason to frisk a person he is questioning.


True, that is called a terry stop.  They are allowed to pat you down for weapons but they aren't allowed to go through your pockets.  The way they usually get around that is to ask you to empty your pockets.  If you comply then they can go through your shit; if you politely decline then the contents of your pockets stays private and they can only feel the outside.  If they feel something obviously illegal they can take it out, if they say "Whats this?" when they are feeling something, say "thats my  item" and don't tell them.

Anyone who hasn't seen this video needs to watch it - Why you should never talk to the police, even if you are innocent. 


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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yep i live in Atlanta where that lady got shot up and its retarded! Cops need to go after the real criminals and stop this nonsense with the war on drugs. Its a waste of our own money. I think meth, coke, and heroin should be persued but gimme a break. Child molesters get less time than pot growers how fucked up is that?


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: phishhead]
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I think meth, coke, and heroin should be persued but gimme a break.


There is no form of prohibition that works.

If people want to use meth, coke, and heroin they should be able to.  If they do something else illegal (violence, stealing) then arrest them for that.

As long as there is drug prohibition there will be drug related violence and the injustice of having lots of people sit in jail just because their drug of choice isn't one of the approved ones.

I sure don't want my tax dollars spent on locking up crack heads.  Prisons are already overcrowded.

Also remember that meth, coke and heroin are legal if a doctor prescribes them.  So you go to prison if you think you need it, but if the doctor thinks you need it then you can get the same substance from the pharmacy.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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There is no form of prohibition that works.

If people want to use meth, coke, and heroin they should be able to.  If they do something else illegal (violence, stealing) then arrest them for that.

As long as there is drug prohibition there will be drug related violence and the injustice of having lots of people sit in jail just because their drug of choice isn't one of the approved ones.

I sure don't want my tax dollars spent on locking up crack heads.  Prisons are already overcrowded.

Also remember that meth, coke and heroin are legal if a doctor prescribes them.  So you go to prison if you think you need it, but if the doctor thinks you need it then you can get the same substance from the pharmacy.





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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: shroomgatherer]
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Haha, I like your story, although it's a hard read being one giant paragraph. :tongue:

You got off pretty fortunate, but just think... they have a picture of you now on record.  I always remind myself that the cops of pictures of me for my own minor violation(s) and such.


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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: gandalf579]
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gandalf579 said:
Parking a car near a cow field can be considered as a suspicious vehicle giving the cop the right to question you. A cop can frisk you for his personal safety while questioning you. He doesn't have to have any other reason to frisk a person he is questioning. However in order for him to legally search your car he has to have probable cause. When a cop asks your permission to search your car, if you say no, then he will call in a K-9 unit to do a walk around your car. If the dog hits on anything the cops will have probable cause, if the dog doesn't hit on anything, then the cops can't legally do a search.


Got to watch out for the false triggers.

I was in the car of a friends when he declined consent to the search, they brought the K-9 in and the dog barked so they tore the car apart and found nothing. Later he filed a civil complaint or something and asked for his torn up seats to be repaired. I'm not sure what happened to the two cops, we were out of town at a basketball game, so I don't know if he's still there or not, I'm sure he is.

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Re: I live in florida and was mushroom hunting then i see flashing red and blue... [Re: Agent 47]
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Amazing video Alan Rockafeller. It was very insightful. I especially enjoy the  8 minutes in part. ive never seen it and im glad that i have. But the downfall of it all is when you try to uphold your rights the situation only thickens. Honestly, and this is a very strong and true statement "COPS CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER". Its true!! Because otherwise your going to have to battle your way through going to court and so on and so fourth. And anyone with common sense will just rather just bend over and have it done with. Another thing thats sad and scary in Tampa Fl where i live my father is a respected personnel of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and he repeatably hears that FBI agents themselves have to battle for their own rights!! Hers a story i will tell you that he told to me. "An agent is pulled over DURING AN INVESTIGATION. The Hillsborough sheriff approaches his suvillian car and is told to take out his drivers license and registration. REQUIRED by law enforcement agencies they have to tell the officer IMMEDIATELY that they have a weapon within the vehicle. When the Agent tries to explain that he has a weapon in the car, the hillsborough sheriff tells him to SHUT UP! Repeating himself again politely the sheriff again tells him to SHUT UP!! Then the agent has to yell "Listen you fucking idiot i have a weapon in the car and i am with the bureau!!" It's just amazing that RESPECTABLE law enforcement has to deal with the same shit we do. It truely saddens me the authority we have to "Serve and Protect". Im sure theyre "GOOD" cops out there, but they are pretty god damn rare.

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