buckwheat said:

5HTSynaptrip said:

There isn't any reason assault rifles should be available to the public.  All you people talking about militias make me , because there is no way in hell any state or even ALL the states could muster a force that is superior to the US Govt's military.

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Very wrong in assuming a civilian force would fight the US military in conventional warfare.US forces hell ANY conventional millitary doesn't have a very good record against guerrilla warfare. Now imagine one many many times larger that what the military has ever seen and with much higher education,training,marksmanship,manufacturing knowledge and capability ect. Imagine what engineers and computer geeks could do for detonators or delivery systems for IED's. Hell you are right we might not even need AW's.


Your argument is flawed from the beginning anyways. Rifles are only used in 3% of gun crimes.Thats' from a data the FBI collect yearly. And from another source i know the top 10 guns used in gun crimes are pocket handguns with magazine capacity's under 10rds. Pretty much the opposite of a AW. Admit it you just think they are scary don't you. Feel good legislation based on things you don't understand just like drug war zealot's

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AmericanPsycho said:

The U.S army would completely decimate any milita uprising. Someone once asked this kind of question in one of my History classes, the teacher laughed at the thought.

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Rocker232 said:

buckwheat said:

5HTSynaptrip said:

There isn't any reason assault rifles should be available to the public.  All you people talking about militias make me , because there is no way in hell any state or even ALL the states could muster a force that is superior to the US Govt's military.

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Like I said earlier, is that still why we've been at war with an informal militia for the last 6 years in Iraq?

Very wrong in assuming a civilian force would fight the US military in conventional warfare.US forces hell ANY conventional millitary doesn't have a very good record against guerrilla warfare. Now imagine one many many times larger that what the military has ever seen and with much higher education,training,marksmanship,manufacturing knowledge and capability ect. Imagine what engineers and computer geeks could do for detonators or delivery systems for IED's. Hell you are right we might not even need AW's.


Your argument is flawed from the beginning anyways. Rifles are only used in 3% of gun crimes.Thats' from a data the FBI collect yearly. And from another source i know the top 10 guns used in gun crimes are pocket handguns with magazine capacity's under 10rds. Pretty much the opposite of a AW. Admit it you just think they are scary don't you. Feel good legislation based on things you don't understand just like drug war zealot's

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The U.S army would completely decimate any milita uprising. Someone once asked this kind of question in one of my History classes, the teacher laughed at the thought.

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AmericanPsycho said:

AmericanPsycho said:

The U.S army would completely decimate any milita uprising. Someone once asked this kind of question in one of my History classes, the teacher laughed at the thought.

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LOL, the US is so arrogant, they think they are the most powerful....idiots.

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Kada said:

Any of you that really does think all guns should be taken away from civillians are not even american in my book. Im not joking. If you can't realize what guns represent in the hands of civillians, then maybe you should go read a few books or maybe look up some of the things our founding fathers had to say about it. Guns are what won our freedom, and guns are what keeps us free.

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5HTSynaptrip said:

I'm a military veteran slick.  Over the years I've used quite a lot of automatic weapons.  Keep throwing useless statistics out though, because I'm basing my opinion, and it's low, off the general public.  As has already been said, the rigors of getting an AW are huge already but what's more to the point is what AWs and assault rifles are used for,

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Rocker232 said:

buckwheat said:

5HTSynaptrip said:

There isn't any reason assault rifles should be available to the public.  All you people talking about militias make me , because there is no way in hell any state or even ALL the states could muster a force that is superior to the US Govt's military.

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Very wrong in assuming a civilian force would fight the US military in conventional warfare.US forces hell ANY conventional millitary doesn't have a very good record against guerrilla warfare. Now imagine one many many times larger that what the military has ever seen and with much higher education,training,marksmanship,manufacturing knowledge and capability ect. Imagine what engineers and computer geeks could do for detonators or delivery systems for IED's. Hell you are right we might not even need AW's.


Your argument is flawed from the beginning anyways. Rifles are only used in 3% of gun crimes.Thats' from a data the FBI collect yearly. And from another source i know the top 10 guns used in gun crimes are pocket handguns with magazine capacity's under 10rds. Pretty much the opposite of a AW. Admit it you just think they are scary don't you. Feel good legislation based on things you don't understand just like drug war zealot's

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The U.S army would completely decimate any milita uprising. Someone once asked this kind of question in one of my History classes, the teacher laughed at the thought.

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Your Teacher? What are you 7 years old? How about coming up with your own argument,

Edit I didnt mean to say his opinion is invalid is just the way your phrased it. lol sorry im a crankyfest when i wake up.

Kada said:

Any of you that really does think all guns should be taken away from civillians are not even american in my book. Im not joking. If you can't realize what guns represent in the hands of civillians, then maybe you should go read a few books or maybe look up some of the things our founding fathers had to say about it. Guns are what won our freedom, and guns are what keeps us free.

Someone said in this thread somewhere that; It's not like the governemnt is going to go door to door and take our guns away. Did you even pay attention when hurricane katrina happened? The government came in and took every gun away from everyone, even people just trying to protect themselves from looters. There were houses and areas that were completley fine and dry, but the governemnt went door to door taking their 2nd ammendment from them. These were white bread honest americans, not your version of and ideal gang members shooting up things. When the shit hits the fan, and there is no one to protect you but yourselves, your going to wish you had a gun, because you can't stand up to someone wanting to kill you with your hippy way of thinking.

Im going to work now. All you unamerican gun haters try to read up on what made this country free, and what we rights we need to stay free. Stop putting your freedom in the hands of someone else. Stop letting fear take away your rights.

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I also agree with this. http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/2009/03/oath-keepers-declaration-of-orders-we.html

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I didn't go to high school in the US... Is it mandatory to learn about the bill of rights and the constitution, or is that an elective?

Rocker232 said:

The U.S army would completely decimate any milita uprising. Someone once asked this kind of question in one of my History classes, the teacher laughed at the thought.

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Tedwilto said:

AmericanPsycho said:

LOL, the US is so arrogant, they think they are the most powerful....idiots.

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green_titan said:

I'm sure people also didn't think the US had a fighting chance against the British?

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poboy said:

No they don't if that was so all southern states would go Dem Almost all go rep

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could it be that you may be mistaken? the reason Obama made the
whitehouse isnt because only blacks voted for him, he had many
minorities as well as many young whites