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Karma.
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Lately some events have been happening in not only my life, but to others around me that I believe reflected their actions in the past. Some may have been a little harsh (acquaintance got into a car wreck), but I believe it could have been karma nonetheless. I don't believe karma rules my life, but I think it has more "shaped" me and my daily actions. (If you're thinking my belief is pointless, think about religion :smirk:)

So my question to the pubs is.. Do you believe in it?


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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Bad choices generally end in bad consequences, if that's what you mean.

"Karma" is just a silly hippie word to me.

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Re: Karma. [Re: Brugman]
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Just by looking at some of the people around me I can tell you karma is bullshit.


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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Not really, but I do believe in cause and effect.

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Re: Karma. [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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CokedUpHobit64 said:
Just by looking at some of the people around me I can tell you karma is bullshit.


I can understand that. It doesn't necessarily disprove my belief but yea, (but then again, flying spaghetti monster example..) theres plenty of people who have it too good for who they are and what they do, and vice versa for people who could use some good fortune who pretty much live for others.


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Re: Karma. [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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wtf - anyone who thinks that their actions are without consequence is fucking retarded. that is basically karma.

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Re: Karma. [Re: Platinum]
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here no speak no see no!


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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i dont believe in karma at all. although my boss who tried to fuck me over and fire me multiple times did get laid off today...


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Re: Karma. [Re: uber_aj]
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so wait, you all do things without consequence? teach me plz? this would have helped last year when i got raided by narcs.

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Re: Karma. [Re: Platinum]
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I don't think anyone is doubting the relationship of cause and effect, I think he is questioning the things that don't necessarily have a cause and effect - but is there still cause or effect? Ie situations where you may make bad decisions but still 'get away with it' (ie. Cheat on your girlfriend, steal from a liquor store, lie to  a friend etc)

How do these effect your life? Did his friend getting into a car accident have to do with his stealing from the store? Do bad things happen to bad people because they are bad people?


My general opinion on the matter is that yes, eventually what goes around comes around. If you wouldn't want someone doing it to you, don't do it to others, the golden rule


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Re: Karma. [Re: Platinum]
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Karma is just a hippy word for cause and effect.

So in hippy language, yes i believe in karma.


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Re: Karma. [Re: Platinum]
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consequences are not the same as karma. of course there are occasionally consequences to my actions. however, blaming karma for getting raided by narcs is absurd.


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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Karma, in a sense, is real.

We live in a huge "super halogram" and everything within it reflects upon that halogram, like in fractals. With that in mind, our thoughts and actions reflect upon what happens around us. If you weren't aware of the existence of money, and thus didn't understand its value, you would probably rather have an apple over a 100 dollar bill if both were offered to you. In totality, how you perceive life shows up in your actions.

Example:
If China thought it needed to bulk up in weapons, it will bulk up in weapons. Without that triggering force of needing to bulk up in weapons, China would never do so. And if nations before us never had the thought of warring with others, they would have never done so.

Everything around you is a reflection of what we think and what our conscious perceives to be reality.
Next time you look at a microwave, don't see it as its function; rather, see it as a compilation of chemical compounds, and subsequently atoms. In that aspect, it is no different than a television or a radio. But we perceive it to be a microwave, making it a microwave, ultimately changing how we value it.


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Re: Karma. [Re: uber_aj]
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i believe there are forces such as karma that are necessary in balancing out the universe. seems like logic to me.


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Re: Karma. [Re: uber_aj]
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uber_aj said:
consequences are not the same as karma. of course there are occasionally consequences to my actions. however, blaming karma for getting raided by narcs is absurd.


im very aware. i was joking.

Edited by Platinum (03/02/09 01:51 PM)

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Re: Karma. [Re: hotkarl]
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hotkarl said:
I don't think anyone is doubting the relationship of cause and effect, I think he is questioning the things that don't necessarily have a cause and effect - but is there still cause or effect? Ie situations where you may make bad decisions but still 'get away with it' (ie. Cheat on your girlfriend, steal from a liquor store, lie to  a friend etc)

How do these effect your life? Did his friend getting into a car accident have to do with his stealing from the store? Do bad things happen to bad people because they are bad people?


My general opinion on the matter is that yes, eventually what goes around comes around. If you wouldn't want someone doing it to you, don't do it to others, the golden rule


Exactly the kind of thing I was going for.

Karma could be blamed or attributed to almost anything (so general that it is hard to prove or disprove like religion, sorry to any fanatics). It could be considered a consequence for an action but it doesnt necessarily happen immediately. Sort of like a building up.

I'm not going to say karma was the cause of Platinum's raid because I don't know the full story, but it's a possibility. Like I had said, I don't believe karma is involved in everything, Platinum may have just made a simple mistake in his op.; It just helps me justify and/or prevent actions. There can always be something more you don't know about a situation, so I choose to give it the benefit of the doubt and take the higher road.


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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ElementsToLife said:
hotkarl said:
I don't think anyone is doubting the relationship of cause and effect, I think he is questioning the things that don't necessarily have a cause and effect - but is there still cause or effect? Ie situations where you may make bad decisions but still 'get away with it' (ie. Cheat on your girlfriend, steal from a liquor store, lie to  a friend etc)

How do these effect your life? Did his friend getting into a car accident have to do with his stealing from the store? Do bad things happen to bad people because they are bad people?


My general opinion on the matter is that yes, eventually what goes around comes around. If you wouldn't want someone doing it to you, don't do it to others, the golden rule


Exactly the kind of thing I was going for.

Karma could be blamed or attributed to almost anything (so general that it is hard to prove or disprove like religion, sorry to any fanatics). It could be considered a consequence for an action but it doesnt necessarily happen immediately. Sort of like a building up.

I'm not going to say karma was the cause of Platinum's raid because I don't know the full story, but it's a possibility. Like I had said, I don't believe karma is involved in everything, Platinum may have just made a simple mistake in his op.; It just helps me justify and/or prevent actions. There can always be something more you don't know about a situation, so I choose to give it the benefit of the doubt and take the higher road.


i wasnt blaming karma for getting in trouble. my point there was all sarcasm. the point i was making was "you can do things without consequences? how do you do this, i would not have gotten in trouble then!" - meaning... if things went without consequence i wouldnt have gotten in trouble. it was sarcastic.

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Re: Karma. [Re: Platinum]
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Platinum said:
i wasnt blaming karma for getting in trouble. my point there was all sarcasm. the point i was making was "you can do things without consequences? how do you do this, i would not have gotten in trouble then!" - meaning... if things went without consequence i wouldnt have gotten in trouble. it was sarcastic.


I understood the sarcasm actually, note the possibility and benefit of the doubt portion. As i've said a few times now, karma doesn't rule in every situation. How society judges things is only a small part of karma itself. Karma runs on YOUR actions, and what you believe is truthfully right.  Because society chose to make growing illegal, you're automatically a bad person in the eyes of the law; Wherein reality you're doing something that doesn't harm or effect anybody negatively and could possibly help others. (Aside from a few munchie runs, but hey, it's still economic stimulation.)


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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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Karma is just a cute word people like to use to justify random bullshit. 

Personally, I believe that there doesn't have to be balance.  That a person can win more than they lose and vice versa.  The only person really keeping score is yourself.  How far down or up you are has more to do with your perspective than anything.





I do believe in an occasional instant karma, though.

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Re: Karma. [Re: ElementsToLife]
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In my world karma is:
Associating a current pleasurable or painful experience to a previous one from memory.


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