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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: xFrockx]
    #9583042 - 01/10/09 01:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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"I believe I as - a conscience - exist.
Could you show me it's a lie?"

Where does this concience you believe in reside?  Is it a thing itself?




Something in itself. I am not sure of where I reside. I just know I am.

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: xFrockx]
    #9584875 - 01/10/09 05:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, in my opinion you are mistaken.  You are using an argument based on authority (the dictionary) to make your claim about what a sophist is.  This is a fellacious argument.




I believe this takes the Freudian Slip Award.


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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: xFrockx]
    #9584944 - 01/10/09 06:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I believe I am awesome.

Also....

semantics, LOL


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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: Shroomism]
    #9585114 - 01/10/09 06:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I believe that people who break their word are douchebags of the highest order and that self-deception is not a virtue.


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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: xFrockx]
    #9585715 - 01/10/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You are definitely in my group of 'People to never get high or do hallucinogenics with.'

How do you deal with people who tell you things like..."I believe you have overdrawn your account, sir."
"I believe the product you are looking for is in aisle 4."

:whatever:

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are lies *DELETED* [Re: xFrockx]
    #9586122 - 01/10/09 09:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are lies [Re: Mufungo]
    #9586468 - 01/10/09 10:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting thread there. "Why?" - Because I don't find a point in anything either. I believe everything can be taken back enough to be called illogical or impossible to prove. Sure, we have got many ways that people follow, both in "religion" and "science", but they are just roads without clear destinations.

Even inside the body you are given at birth everything gets reborn; your cells keep renewing all the time. If you live a long life your body will be reborn physically quite a few times. Yet the mind still believes it is the same thing throughout the whole life.

Why do we bother? Is it because minds think they can't live forever as themselves so they have to pass what they know to other minds for some reason? In order to survive at some level? Just what is a mind? A set of memories, thoughts and insights? These things can be passed on, but it still isn't you who gets passed on, or is it? You can pass down parts of you, but not yourself. What more is there to you? Why do you think you are needed? Are you just too selfish to get off the ride once it has finished? Really, just step aside once you've had enough, that's what eventually happens to everyone.

This is something I started thinking tonight, and this thread seemed somewhat related, this is a belief of mine, after all. If it doesn't make any sense to you at least I got this typed up as a personal memo just now, heh. It's just a start, I have to get deeper in it later..

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9587275 - 01/11/09 01:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: lukey2411]
    #9593636 - 01/12/09 07:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

'People to never get high or do hallucinogenics with.'

I you're one to exclude yourself from other people then I don't know if I'd want to do much of anything with you.

"."I believe you have overdrawn your account, sir."
"I believe the product you are looking for is in aisle 4.""

"Damn"
and "Ok, thanks."

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are lies [Re: Mufungo]
    #9593649 - 01/12/09 07:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

"What does it mean to have a handle on something? "

Lets say to grasp it, to understand it

"Is reality a "thing"? "

a thing is a thing, reality is reality, and those are words

"Who is the "we" you speak of?"

Anyone who reads this

You used the word 'call' in the past tense, does that mean that it's no longer called "reality"?

Kindof did that by accident and didnt notice it

When you say you will "disprove" my belief, how will you know when it has been "disproved"?

I said I would try disproving it, an active process.  Showing that all beleifs are lies would be more accurate of what I was getting at.  Beliefs aree fine i you keep them to yourself, but if you're telling someone else you know somthing, then you're a liar.



Can you "disprove" a belief without asking any questions?"

I can try.  The questions alow someone to disprove themselves though, they knock the needle off the record.

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are lies [Re: xFrockx]
    #9593859 - 01/12/09 08:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Perception is truth..
My belief is that xFrockx  started this thread..


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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are lies [Re: flip3084]
    #9597746 - 01/12/09 08:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know of any xFrockx.

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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: xFrockx]
    #9601467 - 01/13/09 01:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

"Anyone who claims that they have a handle on this thing we called reality, in the form of a belief, is mistaken.  This is my belief, and I will test it by disproving yours, give me your best shot, hopefully all who participate will leave this thread a better, and refuted, person. "

Wow, talk about being arrogant.


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Re: Post your beliefs and I will show you how they are flawed or incomplete [Re: Omegachrist]
    #9602272 - 01/13/09 03:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It may be arrogant, but I agree with him.

Apart my existance, everything else is pure belief. The existance of a certain reality is very likely, but still uncertain.

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