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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Or a shift of perception from that of projection to pure perception....i used to think he looked depressed, i couldnt see why so many spirirtual seekers wanted to learn from him, until i saw myself where he was looking from...


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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His eyes look tired, but the corners of his mouth are upturned & his brows are slightly lifted, which tends to indicate a positive mood.  I don't know that I would describe his expression as "bathed in bliss," but he does not look depressed.

By contrast, McKenna's mouth is turned down at the corners & his lips seem pressed together.  His brows are drawn down & inward, indicating distress.  I would describe his expression as disappointed.

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
It certainly looks like a "life sucks" face to me.

He admitted that his late-in-life divorce really fucked him up.


Did he say he was beyond all pain and suffering? I don't remember that? This photo is no evidence of anything substantial.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Veritas (11/12/08 03:16 PM)

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
His eyes look tired, but the corners of his mouth are upturned & his brows are slightly lifted, which tends to indicate a positive mood.  I don't know that I would describe his expression as "bathed in bliss," but he does not look depressed.

By contrast, McKenna's mouth is turned down at the corners & his lips seem pressed together.  His brows are drawn down & inward, indicating distress.  I would describe his expression as disappointed.


I'd look pretty depressed if I'd have to wake up to a bath of bliss everyday.  Monotony does tend to get on one's nerves.


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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I challenge any of you to stare at the picture of Ramana dead in the eyes for at least 3 minutes & see if he doesnt make you laugh...


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: deCypher]
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Yes, feeling ecstatic would get old fast.  :rolleyes:

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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Only with variety can one appreciate the good in life, methinks.  Otherwise one would have to be perfectly content stimulating one's pleasure center with an electrode until the end of days, no?


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
I challenge any of you to stare at the picture of Ramana dead in the eyes for at least 3 minutes & see if he doesnt make you laugh...


Damn I couldn't do it. He's God.:whoa:

It's the same when I look at Alfred E Neuman. The holy ghost.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: deCypher]
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We'll probably never know.  :shrug:  Does variety necessarily mean suffering, though?  Couldn't one have a wide variety of neutral or pleasurable experiences?  This is my aim in life...to eliminate the mental suffering I cause myself due to neurosis & amplify my enjoyment of the many different pleasures available to me.

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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You gotta push the button. :tongue:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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I challenge any of you to stare at the picture of Ramana dead in the eyes for at least 3 minutes & see if he doesnt make you laugh...


Put me down for $20,000 and to make if fair, I will go four minutes. :yesnod:


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: deCypher]
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For myself when i see myself in everything around me its pretty much the happiest i can get, seeing all this multiplicity as the creations of the same source & recognizing that i am that source

Theres only one place from where we feel bliss, getting in touch with that is the grandest of human experiences imo, the only way i can describe it is being bathed in it, from inside outwards, from the spine, the bone in the arms & legs upto the brain gushing outwards from every pore just pure bliss!

:crazy2:


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
This is my aim in life...to eliminate the mental suffering I cause myself due to neurosis & amplify my enjoyment of the many different pleasures available to me.


I dont believe that you are guilty of causing yourself any neurosis in the first place, who is there to be held reponsible for this crime?

There's no knot to untie


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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It is not a crime, just not the way I prefer to conduct my thoughts.  I certainly have created my own neurosis, with the assistance of my parents & society.  As I recognize my complicity in perpetuating this undesirable approach to life, I am now empowered to choose another path.

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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I certainly have created my own neurosis...


The creative force is strong in this young Jedi! :cool:


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Veritas]
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Does the responsibility really lay on your shoulders?


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Nonstop_Shroomin]
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Nonstop_Shroomin said:
demius said:
stop caring :shrug:


Hence "apathy"


i'm sorry, i answered the question before reading the thread.  i didn't mean to steal your answer

would you like a cookie?


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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
Does the responsibility really lay on your shoulders?


If you want to change it certainly does.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do I get past skepticism?? [Re: Chronic7]
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Certainly.  Who else is inside my head rejecting reality & creating a miserable state of mind?  Who else is inside my head accepting reality & creating a joyful state of mind?

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