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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91740 - 01/16/00 08:42 AM (17 years, 7 days ago)

Hello :smile:


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91742 - 01/16/00 06:11 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

I don't have a definite answer to your inquiry .. but I think that it is important to remember that mushrooms are fungus, not plants. They are in a completely different kingdom. Just because bat guano is nutritious for plants does not necesarily mean it is good for shrooms (or humans, for that matter).

But what do I know ..give it a shot .. maybe you're on to something...



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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91743 - 01/16/00 07:56 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

quote:
I think that it is important to remember that mushrooms are fungus, not plants. They are in a completely different kingdom

Untrue, I defer explination to Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, (c) 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc:

plant \Plant\, n. [AS. plante, L. planta.] 1. A vegetable; an organized living being, generally without feeling and voluntary motion, and having, when complete, a root, stem, and leaves, though consisting sometimes only of a single leafy expansion, or a series of cellules, or even a single cellule.

Note: Plants are divided by their structure and methods of reproduction into two series, ph[ae]nogamous or flowering plants, which have true flowers and seeds, and cryptogamous or flowerless plants, which have no flowers, and reproduce by minute one-celled spores. In both series are minute and simple forms and others of great size and complexity. As to their mode of nutrition, plants may be considered as self-supporting and dependent. Self-supporting plants always contain chlorophyll, and subsist on air and moisture and the matter dissolved in moisture, and as a general rule they excrete oxygen, and use the carbonic acid to combine with water and form the material for their tissues. Dependent plants comprise all fungi and many flowering plants of a parasitic or saprophytic nature. As a rule, they have no chlorophyll, and subsist mainly or wholly on matter already organized, thus utilizing carbon compounds already existing, and not excreting oxygen. But there are plants which are partly dependent and partly self-supporting. The movements of climbing plants, of some insectivorous plants, of leaves, stamens, or pistils in certain plants, and the ciliary motion of zo["o]spores, etc., may be considered a kind of voluntary motion.

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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91744 - 01/16/00 09:25 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

never tried it in a substrate or a casing but have used guano to make tea which subsequently used in making up substrate. works very nicely.
imagine that earthworm casings would work well in a casing.


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91745 - 01/17/00 06:17 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

well actually i have worm castings as a substrate with pan trops mycelium in it growing,,,,
seems that it grows in it well... fruiting is an incognite... by now...
ill keep you informed
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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91746 - 01/17/00 09:20 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

cool nacho!


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91747 - 01/17/00 03:23 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

the Mushroompeople catalog says that worm castings can be used just like cow manure.
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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91748 - 01/17/00 03:26 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

cool pin!


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91751 - 01/17/00 05:36 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

YES I AM A RETARD WHO HAS BEEN MISINFORMED!

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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91752 - 01/17/00 06:04 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

Oh shit! turns out that the catalog was talking about worm shit, not castings... sorry :frown:, i'll look for something about the castings...


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91753 - 01/17/00 06:13 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

Hmm. just read that castings are worm excrement, now i'm confused. But I also read that they're odorless, that sounds a lot better than what you get from a cow :biggrin:

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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91754 - 01/17/00 09:44 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

As a valuable and concentrated source of phosphorus and nitrogen they are of use to the mushrooms as a nutrient and accelerant for the initiation of the composting action on straw.


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    #91755 - 01/17/00 10:13 PM (17 years, 5 days ago)

worms create smooth burrow walls with their waste and also leave little mounds (casts) at the surface. worm casts are the earthworm's undigested waste and are composed of organic matter mixed with soil cemented together with "gum" produced by large populations of microscopic, very active bacteria and mucus.


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91756 - 01/18/00 05:05 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Code,

not to split hairs, but I don't think that websters dictionary is a good source on biology. When I took biology, I learned the 5 kingdoms of living organisms. they are:

Monera: (bacteria, blue-green algae)
Protista: (unicellular organisms, protozoa, diatoms)
Fungi: (fungus, molds, mushrooms, lichens)
Plantae: plants
Animalia: animals

check a biology book, not websters



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    #91757 - 01/19/00 09:07 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

I am presently doing an experiment using kricket crap, worm castings and peat moss as my casing mix. Pins should appear within a few days... keep you all informed.


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91758 - 01/21/00 10:03 PM (17 years, 1 day ago)

Websters is funny. I think their definition of plant is meant to include the people I work with. 'Plants', you know, lazy bastards. Think of the word 'Power Plant', i.e. some kind of factory. It's a stationary body that takes in raw materials, causes some selective decreases in entropy [but a net increase, of course]. I think you would be right to call a shroom a plant in this context. The life cycles are similar, actually. If you think of the mycelium network as a tree and the mushroom as the apple on the tree. . . . But the cell wall componenets and rRNA sequences are different enough that I think they deserve their own kingdom.
Alright, shut up already.


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Re: Does bat guano and or earth worm casts have a place in the cultivation of mushrooms?
    #91759 - 01/21/00 10:23 PM (17 years, 1 day ago)

One of my brief ventures into Advanced Cultivation......You people are freaking scientists. do you know how much money you could make (if that matters to you) if you organized these posts to be a little more linear and conected, and then you printed and published it.....I think the audience would support it.

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