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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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Every one of those quotes from Dreams of My Father is in the past tense, indicating that his worldview has evolved beyond those early vestiges of rascism.

And your "Most Damning" quote: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'... To me, that sounds like he's saying that he will not go along with any wodespread persecution of Muslims that people have feared might grow out of our War on Terror. I don't see anything damning about it.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
If any white politician had ever uttered anything close to any one of those he would be finished on a national stage.


*cough* Strom Thurmond *cough**cough*


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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Obama's wife is worse.....

"My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my ‘blackness’ than ever before. I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don’t belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a student second."



"no matter how hard they "try to be open-minded toward me"…


:sad:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: lonestar2004]
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I think Michelle Obama has a distinct racist streak in her, but that quote doesn't appear t support that hypothesis in any way I can discern.

I'm not sure what you read into it, but I read it as implying:  "no matter how hard they 'try to be open-minded toward me' [they do not succeed, their attitude is influenced by race]..."


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
Zappa, your rhetoric is getting tired.  Obama a "middle school marxist"? :rolleyes:

Elaborate on what tenets of marxism you believe he follows.  He certainly has a socialist bent (within the context of an elective republic), but the executive branch doesn't write laws; that's the job of the legislative branch. 



His crap destructive populism as evidenced by his constant diatribes against anyone who has been successful.  His appeal to the lowest common denominator of entitlement politics with no consideration of the consequences.  His entire fuck the rich platform when it is in fact the rich who pay virtually all of the taxes as it is.  His stupid insistence that Bush even cut taxes on the rich when in fact tax revenues from the wealthy increased drastically as did their share of the total bill under Bush.  The notion that Bush did all these things by himself.  His entire political existence is based on procuring entitlements for a properly pigmented few.  Black schools, black homeowners, black this and black that.  On and on and on.  Perhaps you don't recognize middle school Marxism because .........

It is certainly true that the President doesn't write laws.  But just what do you think is going to happen when all three branches are Dem?  Extremism in anything is scary.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
Every one of those quotes from Dreams of My Father is in the past tense, indicating that his worldview has evolved beyond those early vestiges of rascism.

And your "Most Damning" quote: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'... To me, that sounds like he's saying that he will not go along with any wodespread persecution of Muslims that people have feared might grow out of our War on Terror. I don't see anything damning about it.


That was the other guy's most damning quote.  My most damning quote was "white folks greed..."  His whole career has been black this and black that.  Wake up.  His wife is a racist, his preacher is a racist, his friends are either crooks or racists or terrorists.  I say again, wake up.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
zappaisgod said:
If any white politician had ever uttered anything close to any one of those he would be finished on a national stage.


*cough* Strom Thurmond *cough**cough*


You do know that Strom Thurmond was nothing on the national stage, right?  And what happened to Trent Lott?  You actually helped make my point.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
If any white politician had ever uttered anything close to any one of those he would be finished on a national stage.


I agree 100%.  See, you can make a much more persuasive case with proper talk, rather than using childish speech like 'whitey' (or god forbid, gummint).

It still doesn't change the fact that it has nothing to with the OP topic.  We were never talking about Obama.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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There's a problem with posting forward e-mails as facts. It generally makes one look like an ignorant fool.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

I'll let you read that and then you can edit your prior post if you would like to take out the bullshit.

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
Every one of those quotes from Dreams of My Father is in the past tense, indicating that his worldview has evolved beyond those early vestiges of rascism.

And your "Most Damning" quote: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'... To me, that sounds like he's saying that he will not go along with any wodespread persecution of Muslims that people have feared might grow out of our War on Terror. I don't see anything damning about it.


You are 100% correct.

Quote:
"(T)he stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


Anyone who wouldn't stand them is disgusting in my opinion.

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
I think Michelle Obama has a distinct racist streak in her, but that quote doesn't appear t support that hypothesis in any way I can discern.

I'm not sure what you read into it, but I read it as implying:  "no matter how hard they 'try to be open-minded toward me' [they do not succeed, their attitude is influenced by race]..."



"no matter how hard they 'try to be open-minded toward me"

I see it just the opposite.:crazy:

Her attitude is influenced by race.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: lonestar2004]
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I more-or-less agree.  Considering my impression of her, I think it's likely that the professors' failures to be openminded toward her was likely her own perception, based on being so caught up in race.

But that's only speculation.  If you want to demonstrate she's a racist, you're going to have to do better than a passage like that, which is 100% open to interpretation.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Coaster]
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I love Wolf Blitzer's beard.



What do you love about the Blitz0r?


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
There's a problem with posting forward e-mails as facts. It generally makes one look like an ignorant fool.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

I'll let you read that and then you can edit your prior post if you would like to take out the bullshit.


I didn't get it from an e-mail, I got it from a google search of "white man's greed". 

There is no problem with quoting the fucker directly and I saw no contextual nuance there that gives me any reason whatsoever to believe that he does not harbor a grudge.  One of them seems not to have been his words.  Feh.  Maybe Snopes didn't read so well.  If any white politician said anything close to that shit he would be off the stage.  Obama carries a grudge against whitey.  What has his entire career been? Just read his description of the white Jew organizer who was too white,
"white man of medium height wearing a rumpled suit over a pudgy frame.  His face was heavy with two day old whiskers; behind a pair of thick wire-rimmed glasses, his eyes seemed set in a perpetual squint.  As he rose from the booth to shake my hand, he spilled some tea on his shirt."

The "too white" part comes later.  Meanwhile, every black person is beautiful.  Fucking spare me, OK.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Minstrel]
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The more significant aspect of this is how CAFFERTY (not blitzer, who says fuck all in the clip) is unabashedly destroying Palin, as oppose to the usual asskissing garbage you usually hear out of the talking heads.  Cafferty is CNNs best asset right now.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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Bullshit, you obviously did not read the context around any of those points. There's still plenty of time for you to go back and edit your idiocy.

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Redstorm]
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I also forgot "typical white person".  There is no bullshit, Red.  If you can't see his grudge against whitey you are willfully blind.  Willfully.  He's made his entire career on black racist resentment of whitey.  Wake up.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Bullshit, you obviously did not read the context around any of those points. There's still plenty of time for you to go back and edit your idiocy.


Why do you even bother arguing with these partisan fucktwats? They're worse than pathetic.


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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: zappaisgod]
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And if you can not see how outrageously out of context those quotes are, you are either willfully ignorant or have a serious deficiency in reading comprehension.

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Re: What does wolf blizter have to say about Palin's answer about the bailout [Re: Ancalagon]
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Zappa often has good, well-thought-out points.  This simply isn't one of them.

It's not like he's a conservative version of Coaster. Just apply your own critical thinking filter to everything he says and you end up learning a fair bit.  But as his title implies, sometimes he's a horrid asshole who carries his own prejudices in the same mindless fashion that he despises in the Obamanites.


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