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Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin
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Sarah Palin's endorsement of Rep. Paul Ryan's economic plan is a significant factor in the GOP's chances to win the presidency in 2012. Palin's support for the plan, which addresses fiscal issues and regulatory issues, highlights her understanding of the importance of these topics. Palin's endorsement is seen as a step in the right direction for the GOP, as it brings a specific plan to the table that can help reduce entitlements and create a more free-market based savings and healthcare system. However, the GOP establishment fears Palin and her popularity, which could potentially alienate voters. The author believes that Palin's support for Ryan's plan demonstrates her potential to be an historic figure if she can articulate the fiscal problems and solutions in a way that persuades people truthfully.

One way or the other, Sarah Palin will have the biggest impact on the GOP’s chances to win the presidency  in 2012. Her recent editorial in the Wall Street Journal supporting Rep. Paul Ryan’s economic deficit reduction and economic growth plan is simply her latest in a series of comments on the important issues for America. Her astuteness in these matters is apparent. No, I don’t care if she actually writes these, although there is no reason to believe she does not. Whether she does or not, it is apparent she understands their importance and meaning.  

The two areas where the Federal Government can do the most damage domestically are: 1) the fiscal issues of tax and spending policy, i.e., too much of both; and, 2) regulatory nihilism—-in particular relating to the ad hoc restriction of property rights unilaterally by the executive branch. This happens when the Government implements and interprets vaguely written laws with “unintended” consequences. Examples include the recent Chrysler and GM bailouts, unfunded mandates of all kinds; defining CO2 as a pollutant; the already unchecked power of the EPA overall; and the upcoming Big Kahuna, “Obamacare”.

Ryan’s proposal, A Roadmap for America’s Future, addresses the first issue most directly and parts of the second issue indirectly (for example, his proposals to change Obamacare). I think his plan is a good plan. It is good primarily because it exists at all. If it were up to me the plan would be more simple. About 2/3rds of the forward federal budget are entitlements. Basically, the way our entitlement system works is as follows. It taxes 1 dollar from one group of people and promises 2 dollars to another group of people. All of us are in both groups, although at different times in our lives and for different forms of entitlements.

This is not hyperbole, just a simple statement of what the Government does in fact. The ratio of 1 to 2 may be different, but you get the point. What does this mean? It means as a nation we are less wealthy than our official balance sheet says we are. Think of your own assets and liabilities. If you are like me there is one liability you ignore, the debt of the federal (and state) government, which can only be paid with your taxes, (which is what politics is about, i.e., “who gets and who pays?”). On average, a family of four owes about $140,000 using the most favorable accounting in federal debt. It is really a multiple of that when one factors in the growth path of entitlements, as they are growing far faster than our economy can support.

Any individual today can go on the Social Security website and it will actually show you your personal social security account as if it were a brokerage statement. But unlike a brokerage statement, there are no assets—just a promise to pay. What they will not show you are your personal liabilities owed to the government, because we pretend individuals don’t owe it. If it were there honestly, you would find you owe more money than you will receive, if we had actual transparency. Our entitlement system is not a mere transfer payment system, which by comparison would be almost harmless; it is a true Ponzi scheme, and therefore not sustainable. All economists know this of course. I honestly believe most politicians really do not understand this.

Ryan’s proposal at least transparently addresses the problem of entitlements for all to see. Yet it sits out there in no man’s land within the GOP, with no visible alternative in sight. Entitlements are called the third rail in politics for a reason. I believe the reason the GOP fears this issue, as all past politicians have, is there is genuine concern that the so called tea party movement, which put the GOP back in power, is not really the vanguard of a fiscal restoration movement. Rather, they fear it is a more traditional “don’t gourd my Ox” movement. Maybe it is; if so then we really are at the beginning of the end for the American Empire.

Next: What does it mean that Palin is the first 2012 hopeful to endorse a specific plan?

Sarah Palin is the first presidential “hopeful” to come out aggressively in support of Ryan, while recognizing it is not a “perfect plan”. Implicitly and explicitly, therefore, she is the first candidate to support an actual existing plan to reduce entitlements in exchange for a more free market based savings and healthcare system. This is different than supporting a non-existent or incoherent plan spouting platitudes. This is significant in my opinion. The GOP candidate that can carry this message forward without alienating the people, who must elect them, will have achieved a historically significant accomplishment. It is very hard to be the bearer of bad news such as; “we are not taking anything away from you because you already don’t have it. Rather, we are creating a system where your savings and health care consumption are not empty promises”. I do not pretend this is politically easy. But, as a nation, we need to do this.

Of course, as has been obvious for 2 years, the GOP has no respect for Palin. It even borders on hate or disdain. They disdain her because they believe she won a lotto ticket when McCain put her in the spotlight, (which she did). They hate her because she is popular and uncontrollable, also true. They disdain her because they believe she is vain and self absorbed —I disagree—but certainly no more so than other candidates. They hate her because they think she is stupid. This implies those who say so are smart. To quote Steely Dan from “Reelin’ in the Years”—“you’ve been telling me you were a genius since you were seventeen, and all this time I’ve known you, I still don’t know what you mean”. This obsession with “smart” and politics is the ultimate misunderstood red herring. Finally, and most of all, they hate her because they think she will lose—which only an election can determine.

Consequently, and most recently, we see the spectacle of my home state (and town) governor, Chris Christie, yukkin’ it up with Jimmy Fallon on the dopiness which is Palin. I like Christie a lot, but now less so. We see the shocking gracelessness of Big Barb Bush wishing Palin would just go back to Alaska. We see Karl Rove invoking the empty concept of missing gravitas as Palin does an Alaska Culture and Travelogue show on TLC. Gravitas in politics? Is he kidding? Which politician had an 11th commandment? I forget.

As Palin said after the disgraceful comments of Christie and Ms. Bush, “let’s have the competitive process determine who will be both candidate and president”. I believe the person who will be chosen for both is the one who can, among other issues, best articulate our fiscal problems and actual solutions, in a way which persuades people truthfully. Such a person also has the potential to be an historic figure. I don’t know if this person is Palin or not, nor does she. But her support of Ryan’s plan, despite its weaknesses, is a step in the right direction.

So far, Jumpin’ Joe Biden said it best, even if partially in jest; “It is a mistake to underestimate Sarah Palin”.


http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/12/13/why-the-gop-fears-sarah-palin/2/

I love David Horowitz but i think he's left out a BIG reason why the GOP Hates Sarah Palin.

Fear! She is not part of the GOP establishment and they fear for their jobs and careers!

Thats why they're all hiding in the dark in the fetal postilion sucking their thumbs praying she does not run! They dont want to take her on and lose!  everyone keeps talking about how shes unelectable but shes the only one whos been running since 2009. Look for her to do some foreign traveling in 2011 like Obama did in 2007.

"Obama most costly freshman world traveler
First term senator's charges nearly 45% higher than his classmates"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17165679/ns/politics-decision_08/


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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I'm not part of the GOP establishment but I hope she doesn't win the primary.  For reasons completely unrelated to ability or policy she has almost zero chance of winning the general election.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
I'm not part of the GOP establishment but I hope she doesn't win the primary.  For reasons completely unrelated to ability or policy she has almost zero chance of winning the general election.



Right but just like Horowitz said "only an election can determine that" :cool:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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I can haz prognostications.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: zappaisgod]
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shes going to give him hell and remember the media told us that only John McCain was electable...


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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I do not recall that at all and I certainly wouldn't give much credit to what the liberal media concern trolls have to say about who is or is not an electable Republican.  My opinion is MY opinion and I think I have a much better understanding of the People of this country than most of the media.  I also understand the media and they are punks but very powerful punks.  The eight ball they will put Sarah behind is just too much stone to roll away.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: zappaisgod]
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You can star in a reality TV show.

You can claim that the media hates you and wants to silence you.

You cannot do both.

Also. She has these horrible tics, also. Like how she says also. Also, too. Also.

To be fair, it's pretty clear that somebody coached her to say "also" instead of "um" or "uh", just like Miss Teen South Carolina's infamous "and, such as, the Iraq, such as..." but it's like the Mandelbrot set: once you know it exists, you start to notice it everywhere.

Face it, she made an EXTREMELY bad first impression. I've made worse ones, we're all human, et cetera... but if she wants to whine about "which magazines and newspapers do you read?" as an unfair ambush gotcha question then she is clearly asking to be graded on a curve. That's one way to wheedle your way into an A, I guess, but it's quite revealing. And it's understandable.

Because she embarrasses herself. At times when a normal person would think and then proceed to verbalize actual thoughts, she filibusters, spouting her deranged talking-points word salad. It's like a switch goes on (or, one could argue, off). I once knew a pathological liar, and you could tell when he was bullshitting without even listening to what he was saying, because he would suddenly talk faster. With her, the INFLECTION suddenly changes, ALSO she will suddenly (pro life) just start THROWIN' IN random words (free markets) ALSO reading off hands and... christ, I'm sorry, but if you go to a job interview like that you will not get a job. It's just too fuckin' weird.

Seriously, I will have to hunt it down amongst the thousands of Palin blooper reels, but I swear to god there's one where she's talking about the border fence or something and she just blurts out "pro-life" for no earthly reason.

Watch this, splash your face with some cold water, and then try to remember what the fuck she said. And then go back and watch it again and see if you remembered it right.



Bonus points if you can spot the precise moment when The Crazy sets in.

It's like eating shrooms and watching David Lynch, or listening to Shpongle on DMT, or something, because you'll notice something completely different each time.



I'd love to link Shatner's peerless interpretation of this speech, but I know that would be considered unfair. In any event... she's a punchline. And that's the real problem, isn't it? Republicans do better when their opponent is the butt of a joke. Dukakis and the tank, Al Gore and the Internet, John Kerry and... fuckin' everything about him, we've seen it before.

But nobody will ever be a bigger joke than Sarah Palin. She has zero chance of winning an election, and a nonzero chance of winning a primary, and that means that establishment Republicans are mortified by her cult following.

Me, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. If she runs in the primary, I will work for her campaign. I'll watch Fox News, read Instapundit, I'll go totally Method. And then I'll write a book about it.

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: jimbotron]
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You can star in a reality TV show.

You can claim that the media hates you and wants to silence you.

You cannot do both.



I don't know that the media wants to silence Palin.  They certainly love to beat her.

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Also. She has these horrible tics, also. Like how she says also. Also, too. Also.



Uh, uh, uh, um, ah, .. ah, um.. now, wait just a minute, uh, uh, uh, um... Oh wait, we aren't talking about the great orator, Obama.  Silly me.

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I'm not part of the GOP establishment but I hope she doesn't win the primary.  For reasons completely unrelated to ability or policy she has almost zero chance of winning the general election.  ... The eight ball [the media] will put Sarah behind is just too much stone to roll away.



I'm with Zappa on the above.  The GOP can win the next election as long as they get behind a decent candidate.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: jimbotron]
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jimbotron said:
She has zero chance of winning an election, and a nonzero chance of winning a primary,

Me, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. If she runs in the primary, I will work for her campaign.



You sure do have your panties in a wad about her if she's such a non threat?

I cant wait see all the positive posts from you about Sarah if she runs!:wink:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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Obama is over his head.  As much as I dislike the guy, he probably has more intellect than Sarah. There are some intelligent females in the world, and it pains me to say it I think she sets women in politics back another decade.

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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> I cant wait see all the positive posts from you about Sarah if she runs!:wink:

:rofl:  That, I cannot wait to see!

> As much as I dislike the guy, he probably has more intellect than Sarah.

It is hard to compare the two.  The media glosses over Obama's mistakes while hounding Palin for the slightest slip.

> There are some intelligent females in the world

There are a whole lot of intelligent females in the world.  It is unfortunate that culture often holds them back from their full potential.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: despisedicon]
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despisedicon said:
There are some intelligent females in the world,



you don't say!


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss

Sarah reminds me of a young Hillary. Back in the day many Dems and conservatives hated Hillary Clinton! but now many Dems and conservatives have a lot of respect for her.

IMO right or wrong it takes Charisma to win a Presidency. not knowledge..Was it Obamas super smartness that won him the election or his charisma?

Most voters are not political GEEKS like us :smile: and have no fucking idea how smart the candidates really are. Personally i know that im smarter than all of them combined because who would be dumb enough to want that job!!!:rofl2:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:Uh, uh, uh, um, ah, .. ah, um.. now, wait just a minute, uh, uh, uh, um... Oh wait, we aren't talking about the great orator, Obama.  Silly me.



Yeah, but the thing is, most people can relate to that. I do that stuff all the time. I've learned ways to avoid verbal pauses but, wow, some speech coach brainwashed her into a bad one.

You can rationalize it, but that's the not same thing as making it go away. :lol:

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I'm with Zappa on the above.  The GOP can win the next election as long as they get behind a decent candidate.



Exactly. I think, in addition to working for Palin in the primary, I will do oppo research on John Thune. He's the most telegenic contender with no obvious weaknesses. Gotta be some skeletons in the closet.

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You sure do have your panties in a wad about her if she's such a non threat?

I cant wait see all the positive posts from you about Sarah if she runs!:wink:



Sure thing. I'll hone my craft with you guys. :smile2: For the record, the reverse psychology/jedi mind trick "you say she's the worst candidate because you know she's really the best!" is... reaching a little bit.

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: jimbotron]
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All of conservative America trembles at the thought of you working diligently as a mole.  We are well and truly fucked now.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
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You can star in a reality TV show.

You can claim that the media hates you and wants to silence you.

You cannot do both.



I don't know that the media wants to silence Palin.  They certainly love to beat her.



I disagree, she is almost completely a product of the media. Books tours, speaking engagements, a new tv show, a nice seat on Fox, talk shows, daughters on syndicated dancing shows, I mean she is almost entirely held up by the media and the facade of relevance they shower her with. While I don't know for certain, I'm a betting man and I'm willing to bet that she will not get close to the Presidency, a fate she effectively sealed when she resigned as Governor.


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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: jimbotron]
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jimbotron said:
in addition to working for Palin in the primary, I will do oppo research on John Thune. He's the most telegenic contender with no obvious weaknesses. Gotta be some skeletons in the closet.





Dont worry about Thune, many conservatives this time are not going to be looking at what they say, but what they have done!

He Voted for TARP....

He Voted for Food Austerity Act...

Plus hes one of Republicans in the fetal position sucking his thumb waiting to see what Sarah is going to do...


"Sen. John Thune said Thursday that Sarah Palin’s decision whether or not to run for president will “change the equation” for him and all other potential Republican contenders."

Thune said that he will make his decision about running sometime early next year, but he conceded that the possibility of a Palin run will be weighing heavily on his choice......


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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Santorum also waiting...


"Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Penn.) told DC newspaper The Hill that he isn’t likely to make his 2012 plans official until it becomes more clear whether former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is getting in the presidential contest."


Pussies....


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: gzuf]
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gzuf said:
I'm a betting man and I'm willing to bet that she will not get close to the Presidency, a fate she effectively sealed when she resigned as Governor.



She had to quit and I do think it will be used against her in both the primaries and the the general election.

But if she runs an effective campaign, she has a chance to win it.

at least the primary, you have to be a very very bad president to lose reelection....


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

Edited by lonestar2004 (12/15/10 02:22 PM)

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Re: Why the GOP Fears Sarah Palin [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said: She had to quit



If you mean "she had to quit so that she had time for book tours and speeches because she realized she could make 100 times as much money doing that" then I agree. But it's not a very good reason to abdicate an elected position.

You don't really buy her bullshit about how the point guard has to pass the ball so that the team can score, right?

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