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need help with STRAW tek.... PF Cakes.
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I went to micheals to buy some posters for the girl friend.... on my little adventure in the store I came accross some "Hay Bales"... It looks like straw to me... and on the sticker it says "Straw Bale Large" even though on the sign it said "Sale: Hay Bales".....

Here are some pics:

 

Edited by roasted27 (09/26/08 09:48 PM)

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: roasted27]
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Isn't it the same thing?


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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: dead]
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Straw is an agricultural by-product, the dry stalk of a cereal plant, after the grain or seed has been removed.


Hay is a generic term for grass or legumes that have been cut, dried, and stored for use as animal feed.

looks like straw hay usually is darker and straw is yellow


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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: savogeno]
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I'm trying to find a good straw tek to spawn with my PF cakes......the only straw tek I can find is "shroomgods"...... is ther any more for small casings like tin pans or tupperware?

I'm just going to pasturise and make a layer of straw with a layer of PF cake (crumbled) in the middle and another layer of straw on top.. I don;t really wanna do a huge rubbermaid bin like shroomgods.... I just want to do several casings..... any ideas?

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: roasted27]
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yes i would like to do the same if possible

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: roasted27]
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Yes, put straw in pillow case, or laundry bag and put in pot of water, place on stove, bring heat up so middle of the substrate reads 160-170 for about 90 minutes


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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: shroomizzy]
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is ther any more for small casings like tin pans or tupperware?



No.  Straw should be used in large quantities for best results.  If you want a small tray, use manure or coir.
RR


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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
use manure or coir.



Ive had really good results with coir.

edit:  with coir on small casings that is.


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Edited by seg_x (09/27/08 12:24 AM)

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: seg_x]
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I'm full of questions guys I really need your help here;

I can only grow this once because of roomies so I need a good yeild..I'll keep you all up to date on this too.

I only have like 10 - 250ml PF cakes, what's the most I can do with them?

Can I use one cake per casing? If so I can make 10 casings, right? Or is there a ratio I need to use??? Is it the same as grain spawns? Can someone help me with these ratios:

Cake:straw
Cake:Coir

If I were to get like... 10 rubbermaids and use them with straw would I be able to use 1 cake for each of them??? Is this a good idea????

I will be able to set up a couple bulk grows at my friends place.... and I want to do a couple casing in my room. What can I really do with 10 cakes???? I want o get the most dried shrooms per cake that I can...

Can I do a whole bulk tub with straw and  ONE cake??? Or do I need several?? Thanks guys.

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: roasted27]
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roasted27 said:
Can I do a whole bulk tub with straw and  ONE cake??? Or do I need several?? Thanks guys.


You want a minimum ratio of 1:5 spawn to bulk sub or about 20% spawn (1/2 pint cakes in your case). So for every half pint cake you use, you can spawn to about 5 half pints worth of bulk substrate. The straw from Michaels works well, but like RR said, you need to use a good amount of it to make it worth your while.

Search the cultivation archives, the forums and the main site for more information on how to do bulk grows.


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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: Alabama Slim]
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I can't really fiond any h.poo, and I think staw is going to be my only option... I'm gonna try maybe 2 rubbermaids with 5 cakes in each of them... If I have extra I might do 1 casing or 1 dunk and roll....

Do I need a casing layer ontop of the straw?

Thanks.

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Re: Is this HAY or is it STRAW ?!?!?!?!?!? [Re: roasted27]
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roasted27 said: What can I really do with 10 cakes???? I want o get the most dried shrooms per cake that I can...



put them in a pmp set up.


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Edited by george castanza (09/28/08 01:10 AM)

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