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dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub?
    #1804999 - 08/12/03 11:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I have been unable to obtain any type of straw in my area, ive checked garden centers/home depots/stables etc etc.... All i've been able to get is this stuff called salt hay, it is just cord grass that grows in brackish marshes, im wondering if this is a viable alternative or if i can use it at all???

WHAT IT IS:
Salt hay is a grass that flourishes in marshes that irregularly flood with brackish waters. The plant usually grows to a height of 1 to 3 feet and flowers in June through October. The term salt hay usually refers to Spartina patens, but it can also sometimes refer to three other types of marsh grasses: salt marsh cordgrass (Spartina alterniflora), black grass (Juncus gerardii), and three square grass (Scirpus olneyi).

Hay from salty environments, such as coastal areas in New Jersey or Massachusetts, is often used as a mulch. Some contains trace minerals which are helpful for plants. It does not form a mat, but remains rigid and loose. Often recommended for strawberries at the rate of 2 inches.


this is the only related information i really came up with


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: ahel]
    #1805000 - 08/12/03 11:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

edit: sry


Edited by ahel (08/12/03 11:15 AM)


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: ahel]
    #1805171 - 08/12/03 12:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Go to a craft store and buy a mini-bale. They come in sizes up to 6" X 6" X 12", which is sufficient for a good sized shroomgod style rubbermaid tub. They are pricey, but when you consider you can get more than 4 ounces off of each one, the $5.00 price doesn't seem as ridiculous.

Walmart carries them sometimes in the seasonal craft or dried flower sections. National craft stores such as Michaels have them, as should many other craft stores. You can order them online if you can't find them locally, but most websites I've seen call them mini HAY bales, but I assure you they are straw, not hay.

Which brings me to why I wouldn't use salt hay. Because it's hay. Hay is bad. Also, this marsh grass doesn't sound like a cereal straw, which is what you want. Stamets says all of the cereal straws work, but doesn't talk about other alternatives (sugar cane bagasse being the only alternative to a cereal straw).

BTW, mini-bales may be pricey compared to full bales of wheat straw, but they are much easier to work with if you're a city dweller.


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: mycofile]
    #1805189 - 08/12/03 12:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

In that case, forget straw and go here:

http://www.hemptraders.com/cart/shopper...._categories.htm

and order some hemp fiber. Use it just as you would straw. Mushies LOVE hemp! Check out the "ever colonize a burrito" thread in 'fungi' at www.mycotopia.net


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #1805456 - 08/12/03 02:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i dont really have the time for mail order i will have a cake doen in the next 2 days, maybe for future refrence, i dont have a michaels near me or a wal mart =( i dunno what ta do


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: ahel]
    #1805468 - 08/12/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Do a google search for "your state feed store". Of course you should actually put the state you reside in and not "your state". You should be able to find something unless there is no livestock in your state.


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1818670 - 08/16/03 01:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

damn, no wall mart! I would be lost without a 'mart around!


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: ahel]
    #1819176 - 08/16/03 05:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

if you have access to horse manure, you don't need straw .  :laugh: 


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: deanofmean]
    #1819203 - 08/16/03 05:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

so wait, no need for straw?! i was under the impression that the straw was somewhat vital to the whole idea. is this not the case? would substition for vermiculite work? could this affect yeild?


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Re: dung/straw tek.... cant get straw, is this a viable sub? [Re: acidhead1279]
    #1819643 - 08/16/03 01:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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