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wrestler_az
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allergic to shrooms?
#896547 - 09/20/02 11:39 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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is it possible to be allergic to psilocybin.....? has there ever been any cases of this....? just a thought......
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#897833 - 09/21/02 04:28 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stamets claims that a percentage of people (16%, if I remember correctly) are allergic to psilocybe cubensis...
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wrestler_az
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: Gnome69]
#898178 - 09/21/02 07:04 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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16% huh? so like, 3 out of every 20? does he say anything about the reactions they get? symptoms?
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905
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#898191 - 09/21/02 07:09 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got itchy from some that weren't dried properly.
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: 905]
#898232 - 09/21/02 07:33 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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In reply to:
I got itchy from some that weren't dried properly.
Define dried properly, then how were yours dried?
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: blink]
#898271 - 09/21/02 07:52 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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they were dried sitting out in the air. They were not cracker dry. I always fan dry mine and then put them in a jar with dessicant. I didn't grow these, unfortunately I have more that I am afraid to eat.
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ToxicMan
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#898453 - 09/21/02 09:27 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Keep in mind that Stamets is talking about an allergy to a mushroom species, not to the chemical psilocybin. That type of allergy rate isn't exceptional for mushrooms - a lot of people can't eat the ones from the store. Also, food allergies to mushrooms are by genus - if you're allergic to Psilocybe, that doesn't tell you if you're allergic or not to Panaeolus or Agaricus.
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wrestler_az
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: ToxicMan]
#898537 - 09/21/02 10:16 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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if one was allergic, could he/she then get by with making tea, instead of eating the fruits, with out getting much of a reaction?
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#898557 - 09/21/02 10:25 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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420Girl seems to be allergic. When ever she trips on shrooms her face puffs up and her tear ducts go crazy, she literally cannot stop crying. she says her throat feels like it's closed up.
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: joe666]
#898575 - 09/21/02 10:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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She still like to trip? She should eat lots of benadryl.
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: 905]
#898640 - 09/21/02 11:14 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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she does low doses.
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#898642 - 09/21/02 11:17 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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It might help. It depends on if whatever it is in the mushrooms you're allergic to also dissolves into the tea. If not, then you have a solution. Definitely don't mess with food allergies, though - people die of that stuff. If you're desperate, maybe you should look into extracting just the psilocybin and psilocin, which is a bit more complicated than just making tea.
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wrestler_az
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: ToxicMan]
#898665 - 09/21/02 11:45 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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do you have any links that might help? if not, im still gonna check it out, maybe at the erowid(sp)?
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: wrestler_az]
#898723 - 09/22/02 12:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have done an extraction with everclear, 190 proof grain alchohol. I let soak for a month.
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Re: allergic to shrooms? [Re: 905]
#898911 - 09/22/02 08:33 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I belive I am allergic to Psilocybe cubensis. Whenever I eat them my experiance is fine until the 3-4 hour, just after the peak and I'm coming down I get some really unpleasent effects. My hands swell and turn red, my skin gets clamy and in some spots red and blotchy, and my blood pressure sky rockets which isn't normal at all for me. Its almost like the allergy and the psilocybin synergize each other to create a whole new trippy allergic reaction that is extremely unpleasent.
This only happens to me with cubes though, I've eaten azures, weilii, copes, and my new species and had no such problems. Cubensis is not a true Psilocybe, it is a stropharia improperly placed in the Psilocybe genus, just look at them, they have almost no resemblence to ny other Psilocybes. Real Psilocybes have no negative effects on me, just them damn old cubes, maybe thats why the indians of southern mexico won't eat cubies and consider them inferrior ?
I sure as hell don't eat cubes anymore, I have plenty of other mushrooms around here that are far better than cubes minus the bad effects, no reason for me to eat cubensis.
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