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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Lndrydusting]
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the ged requirements are so low as a product of the public school system being such a bureaucratic mess

you will never ever see a command style economy better than a free market, because theres no incentive for work or division of labor.  the public school is a command style education, and provides zero teacher incentive, and a one size fits all situation in which very few succeed, and everyone else gets dumbed down.

your effectively saying that everyone should give their kids to a centralized system which does not even promote education, and making arbitrary bench marks that people have to pass in order to not end up in jail.  real life skills are speaking, listening, entrepreneurship, and specialization in fields.  When was the last time public schools talked about entrepreneurship?  The ONLY thing i was told ALL MY LIFE was to get good grades no matter what, go to college, then get a secure government job for the rest of my life.  And i'm god damn furious that i was lied to to keep the paychecks rolling in for repulsive government people.  I refuse to participate in this mob-ocracy.


Who are these people threatening me with violence if i don't send my children to their camps?  Why are they legitimate authorities?  Heres the quick answer: they have bigger guns.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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Ha...
"you're effectively" reading into what I said far too much and building a little political me that you think I am. Ridiculous.

BTW, I'm all for the semi "socialist" leanings of Canada. And I plan to keep them.
I'm not going to talk about the monster that is capitalism with you, so don't even try.

Oh and hey....
It looks like you now own an insurance company, among other things.
Congrats, all that deregulation sure paid off. (For the rich)
And now you own some banking and insurance companies.
Congrats, Thank Jebus for lack of oversight.
A managed economy? Why that's communism. :lol:


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Redstorm]
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No offense intended. But if that's true, that's about the only thing that America leads the western world in these days.

Check out MapleCroft Maps for example.
And BTW, tell me if you can see all of them.
I think the reason I can only see a few now is because I was using a preview.
I could open them all and explore in detail at one time. Now I can't.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said:
Ha...
"you're effectively" reading into what I said far too much and building a little political me that you think I am. Ridiculous.

BTW, I'm all for the semi "socialist" leanings of Canada. And I plan to keep them.
I'm not going to talk about the monster that is capitalism with you, so don't even try.

Oh and hey....
It looks like you now own an insurance company, among other things.
Congrats, all that deregulation sure paid off. (For the rich)
And now you own some banking and insurance companies.
Congrats, Thank Jebus for lack of oversight.
A managed economy? Why that's communism. :lol:



my post was edited to direct the comment at the right person

please understand how to differentiate from intent of response in the future, so we don't have to go through this rigamarol every time


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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Ok. Excellent.


But please remember,....to always fear the government and trust only the private sector.
That's the only way we can fix, EVERYTHING!:tinfoil:


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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I'm not anti government... i'm pro freedom.

You can have as much government as you want, just leave me out.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said:
No offense intended. But if that's true, that's about the only thing that America leads the western world in these days.

Check out MapleCroft Maps for example.
And BTW, tell me if you can see all of them.
I think the reason I can only see a few now is because I was using a preview.
I could open them all and explore in detail at one time. Now I can't.



None taken. I'll check them out right now.

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Redstorm]
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my issues with banning in cali.

the education system in many inner cities is almost as bad as a parent who does not have a degree or diploma. I think the parent does have the choice to keep their children away from such institutions, but the only problem with that is they will not be exposed to new material.

I think one issue at hand is the social aspect of schools have changed. Its almost a safety issue. What if the child has a disability and is forced to public school, where they are at the mercy of there peers, possibly being ridiculed daily. This can lead to many long term problems and conflicts that not only deal with the individual but the school as a whole.

I think that if a parent does have a diploma they should be able to homeschool there child to the age of 10 (or elementary school) and if they do have a college degree of some sort until the age of 13 (or 8th grade). This is where i think that some people should enter either a public high school, or is required to have a hired tutor for homeschooling.

I have had many friends live complete social lives outside of homeschool, and have actually excelled past many of their peers academically.

a down side to homeschooling is the quality of the parents education, and sometimes social beliefs that are installed in the child from a crack head parent. I think these children are at most risk.


so all in all i believe it should be allowed and that its not the states decision to determine whats best for the child, because state officials dont know areas on a personal basis. It should be a city ordinance and not a state law.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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The youtube i posted is a excellent summary of everything my brain can't summarize in a couple paragraphs on a message board.

Please watch !


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: DieCommie]
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Edited by deCypher (01/21/09 06:00 PM)

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Quote:
But please remember,....to always fear the government and trust only the private sector.



whats wrong with private schools? they let you pass more easily, and give you better grades in order to attract new students to make more money.

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Arp]
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Arp said:
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But please remember,....to always fear the government and trust only the private sector.



whats wrong with private schools? they let you pass more easily, and give you better grades in order to attract new students to make more money.



Do you have proof for these claims of grade inflation?

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Arp]
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Arp said:
whats wrong with private schools? they let you pass more easily, and give you better grades in order to attract new students to make more money.



Sorry, but thats not the way it works.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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private schools offer higher quality of education, specialization and other things public doesn't.  Thats why its better.  Grade inflation is relative to knowledge, which is why people don't go to the schools that preform the best as the only deciding factor.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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Prove private schools are better around the world.
And not just in your system where the public schools are starving for capital.

Show me some proof that around the world private schools outperform public schools.
Or don't, whatever... I don't really care.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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So I guess it's time to get teaching credentials in California instead of Oregon.

:shrug:

Quote:
“A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation,” Croskey wrote.



:strokebeard:

I think it just sounds more Orwellian than it was intended to be.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
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I don't know how anyone can call the California school system uniformly authoritarian.  From the 5th grade on, I was always so far ahead that the teachers just let me do whatever I wanted.  I could fuck around in the halls all day if I felt like it and just show up for tests.  Of course, out of sheer boredom, I would go to class still.  That was cool though, because rather than teach, we mostly discussed the material in an impartial manner.  I know it gets worse if you're a retard, but unless you have medical issues causing you to be there, then there's no excuse for anybody not to get into the better classes.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Ferris]
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I don't know how anyone can call the California school system uniformly authoritarian.  From the 5th grade on, I was always so far ahead that the teachers just let me do whatever I wanted.  I could fuck around in the halls all day if I felt like it and just show up for tests



Sounds strangely familiar.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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watch the video i posted.  plenty of facts in there

but the shorter answer is that they are voluntary,
that's why they better

one does not need proof to know that command style education is worse than voluntary education.  check the history of man, man

i dont care enough to get a bunch of statistics comparing public - private.  i am pointing out how evil and wrong banning home schooling is, and what it tells about the future of education.  you think its right that bureaucrats get to decide your childrens future, and parents should be put in jail if they want to teach them themselves?


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