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Homeschooling banned in cali
    #8974311 - 09/23/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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(NaturalNews) A California appeals court has ruled that homeschooling of children is illegal unless their parents have teaching credentials from the state.

“California is now on the path to being the only state to deny the vast majority of homeschooling parents their fundamental right to teach their own children at home,” said Michael Smith, president of the Home School Legal Defense Association.

The court overturned a lower court’s finding that homeschooling did not constitute a violation of child welfare laws.



“California courts have held that … parents do not have a constitutional right to homeschool their children,” Justice H. Walter Croskey said.

The decision stunned parents of the state’s roughly 166,000 homeschooled children. While the court claimed that it was merely clarifying an existing law and not making a new one, the decision leaves the parents of homeschooled children at risk of arrest and criminal prosecution.

“At first, there was a sense of, ‘No way,’ ” homeschool parent Loren Mavromati said. “Then there was a little bit of fear. I think it has moved now into indignation.”

Parents’ reasons for homeschooling their children range from religious beliefs to dissatisfaction with the education received at public or private schools. But according to the court, all California children between the ages of 6 and 18 must attend either a full-time public or private school or be taught by a tutor credentialed for their specific grade level.

“A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation,” Croskey wrote.

California’s largest teachers union welcomed the decision as did the Children’s Law Center of Los Angeles.

According to the law center’s executive director, Leslie Heimov, children should not be educated at home, because they need to be “in a place daily where they would be observed by people who had a duty to ensure their ongoing safety.”




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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974340 - 09/23/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974344 - 09/23/08 05:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

“A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation,” Croskey wrote.


I'm a little disturbed by this one.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974362 - 09/23/08 05:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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“A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation,” Croskey wrote.


I'm a little disturbed by this one.




Your absolutley right on that one.....WTF is that about :rofl2:

However im gonna have to side with "The Man" on this one. There is a cirtain right of passege for attending high school. Even if your a complete loaner its an important port of growing up.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: DXM Guru]
    #8974363 - 09/23/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: DXM Guru]
    #8974364 - 09/23/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

wow

and there we go....


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: DXM Guru]
    #8974367 - 09/23/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

first blood has been taken

90 page debate, go!


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: deCypher]
    #8974369 - 09/23/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I was homeschooled from age 6 to age 16, then started college.  We lived in California when my mother decided to homeschool me, and the school authorities threatened to have her arrested for child neglect.  We had a plan worked out wherein I would take my brother out the back door & over the fence if the police showed up, because my mother didn't want us to end up in foster care.  :sad:


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974372 - 09/23/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

damnit!


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974374 - 09/23/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think that you've interpreted the ruling incorrectly.  I can assure you that homeschooling is still legal in California.  It's just not constitutionally guaranteed.

There are of course, regulatory practices to ensure that the children are receiving proper educations.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Ferris]
    #8974381 - 09/23/08 05:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I think that you've interpreted the ruling incorrectly.  I can assure you that homeschooling is still legal in California.  It's just not constitutionally guaranteed.




i simply quoted the article, sir.


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Veritas]
    #8974383 - 09/23/08 05:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: deCypher]
    #8974386 - 09/23/08 05:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree high school is good for socialization purposes, but I am completely against attending regular school below this age.





I think it's hilarious that people still believe socialization will not take place outside of public school.  Unless the parents keep their children in a cage, they will interact socially with other children and adults.

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: anyone420]
    #8974390 - 09/23/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I think that you've interpreted the ruling incorrectly.  I can assure you that homeschooling is still legal in California.  It's just not constitutionally guaranteed.




i simply quoted the article, sir.




"Homeschooling banned in cali"


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: deCypher]
    #8974399 - 09/23/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Most states with relaxed laws regarding homeschooling still require standardized testing.  If children are NOT being educated, they will fail the tests & THEN the authorities may intervene or require tutoring.

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Ferris]
    #8974401 - 09/23/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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anyone420 said:
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Ferris said:
I think that you've interpreted the ruling incorrectly.  I can assure you that homeschooling is still legal in California.  It's just not constitutionally guaranteed.




i simply quoted the article, sir.




"Homeschooling banned in cali"




really?


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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Veritas]
    #8974408 - 09/23/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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    #8974425 - 09/23/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, and many kids who go through the public school system are not ready for college, either.  :shrug:

I think that standardized testing is a good idea, particularly for religious homeschoolers.  I'm unaware of any states which do not require testing at least every other year.  Which state are you in?

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: Veritas]
    #8974433 - 09/23/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Homeschooling banned in cali [Re: DXM Guru]
    #8974451 - 09/23/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think banning homeschooling has very dark shadows for your children.  Government doesn't do anything right, and education is one of the things they do worst.  Your basically giving a bunch of people with no reason to do their job your kids for 20 years.  And you will get put into a damn jail cell if you don't want them to teach your kid all their lies. 

Theres no way to deny the police state we live in, and its only going to get worse.  If you can't see the danger, and the absolute injustice to the individual this oppressive government is, then i'll give up now.


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