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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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Cool shit man, cool shit :thumbup:

I hadn't taken anything you had said personally, but even if I had, that statement would have redeemed you in my mind.  I'm not one for affirmative action in particular, but I see the solution where the action happens, which is what you claim you are setting out to accomplish.

Great movie.  I also reccomend Blackboard Jungle, with Sidney Poitier.  One of my favorite movies (and probably the movie that one was based off of).


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Jack Albertson said:
DragonChaser said:
Jack Albertson said:
that test be racist? are you fucking kidding. If you said something like that to my face, i dont think i'd be able to contain myself. Youre a racist piece of shit, and not worth the shit youre made of.


But, but, but, correct grammar is an evil racist tool created by rich white people to be used against minorities!


And I like how you didn't address the rest of that argument at all.  Just that one sentence.
You have to admit, sitting around calling a test racist instead of practicing and studying for it is pretty damn lazy.

Dude shut the fuck up. I took the SAT and did fine. But then i realized that i didnt need to waste money going to a four year college to learn some profession that wouldnt matter or do anything for anyone. Stop pretending that everyone else is wrong.


I'm not going to shut the fuck up.  Didn't you read my last post?  You guys have been my only source of entertainment today.  I've been almost able to *see* the veins popping out of your forehead while you furiously type angry, cussword laden replies.
And thats true, you don't really need a college degree... but according to government studies, people with degrees make on average a million more in their lifetimes than those without.  More and more people are getting degrees;  I've almost got my math degree.  I've got my 20/hr internship lined up for next summer... Once I have it... I will be invincible.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Ferris]
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Word, I'll check out Blackboard Jungle.

buckwheat said:
You're one to talk you've ignored me twice now only yo go use ad hominem attacks on other people.btw the first person to resort to ad hominem was you a white. That means all white people are hot headed idiots incapable of a scholarly argument according to your "logic".


Once again... I'm Native American and Jewish.  Not white.  But I will go on the record for saying that I think most white people are indeed, hothead idiots.
I will admit though, that I am racist.  I think white people are evil devils that just rape and lay waste to the world.
I think black people are lazy and inconsiderate.
I think Jews are greedy (but hey thats ok, because I'm Jewish so I can say so!).
But I don't really think one race is better than another.  Although I do think the world would be a lot better off without white people.
I don't really buy into the whole, black people are genetically dumber, and the dog breed analogy;  but it was fuel I could throw on a fire at the time.
I'm Indian/Jewish.  My cousins are hispanic and chinese (they're both adopted).  One of my uncles is black.
I dislike all people, equally.

Jack Albertson said:
youre a joke.


And you're a fag.

Thanks for giving me something to do for the past couple hours though!


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Edited by DragonChaser (07/05/08 06:12 PM)

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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
Word, I'll check out Blackboard Jungle.

buckwheat said:
You're one to talk you've ignored me twice now only yo go use ad hominem attacks on other people.btw the first person to resort to ad hominem was you a white. That means all white people are hot headed idiots incapable of a scholarly argument according to your "logic".


Once again... I'm Native American and Jewish.  Not white.  But I will go on the record for saying that I think most white people are indeed, hothead idiots.



3 times.


i must agree with you this has been fun.you're a riot.

a Native American Jew supporting sterilization you can't make this shit up it gets better and better.:rofl2:

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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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HEY!!!

No more White people
No more macaroni and Cheese

Think about it :crankey:


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: StrandedVoyager]
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buckwheat said:
a Native American Jew supporting sterilization you can't make this shit up it gets better and better.:rofl2:


Oh well, if my mongrel blood makes me a prime candidate for sterilization, I'll just have to take one for the team I guess :sad:

StrandedVoyager said:
No more White people
No more macaroni and Cheese

Think about it :crankey:


I'd be willing to make that trade... We would still have sushi, fried chicken, watermelon, and dank Indian and Chinese food.

But in all seriousness... I'm astounded this thread didn't get closed by a mod.  I've been laying in bed all day posting (I've been sick), while this went on for 11 pages, afraid that after every post it was going to get locked and I'd have to go watch scifi or something instead.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: buckwheat]
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I'm not advocating force.  If they refuse to be sterilized, slap them with fines.


What a joke! Haha.

Fines are an initiation of force, don't you see?

The evils I mentioned, are side effects of government and the only method government has to succeed, violence.  Not capitalism. Capitalism is done on a strictly voluntary basis.  If i want some eggs, i voluntarily buy them.  If you want me to pay for sterilizing babies through fines, thats an action of force; an involuntary agreement.  Why?  Because if i don't pay the fines, you will physically put me in jail, and if i refuse to go to jail you will physically harm me in the form of hot lead. 

Just because money is owed, does not mean a legitimate contract was made to establish the debt in the first place.  If a robber pulls a gun on you on the street, and says you owe him all your money or else, is this a legitimate reason to pay money?

The same concept applies to government.  They are just robbers with shiny badges and uniforms. They still kill you if you don't obey, the force is still implied. 



Everything you have said this entire thread is a complete parallel to socialist dogma.  Your just a armchair tyrant who thinks that it is OK to oppress others for your personal goals.  I for one, reject the concept that force is alright if the benefits are great.  I say initiating force is wrong 100% of the time. 

You seem to think differently, and thats what separates civilized people from savages.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: anyone420]
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anyone420 said:
Quote:
I'm not advocating force.  If they refuse to be sterilized, slap them with fines.


What a joke! Haha.

Fines are an initiation of force, don't you see?
:hamsterdance: 

Just because money is owed, does not mean a legitimate contract was made to establish the debt in the first place.  If a robber pulls a gun on you on the street, and says you owe him all your money or else, is this a legitimate reason to pay money?

The same concept applies to government.  They are just robbers with shiny badges and uniforms. They still kill you if you don't obey, the force is still implied. 


Everything you have said this entire thread is a complete parallel to socialist dogma.  Your just a armchair tyrant who thinks that it is OK to oppress others for your personal goals.  I for one, reject the concept that force is alright if the benefits are great.  I say initiating force is wrong 100% of the time. 

You seem to think differently, and thats what separates civilized people from savages.


Well, thank you for admitting you're a savage.
A robber with a gun is different from the government wanting taxes.  You may not agree with taxes and the government and you may think they're robbers, but if you or your wife ever get raped or killed and you don't know who the perpetrator was, and you all of a sudden find yourself in need of help from the police, and their tax-funded services and forensics labs and all that, you'll be happy theres tax money there to support all that.  Or the roads that you use, and whatever else taxes pay for.
And I may be an armchair tyrant or whatever, but I don't really want to sterilize everyone.  Especially not babies, I don't know where you got that from.
Initiating force is ok, if it is getting rapists and killers off the streets.  If you knew someone was going to kill 100 people with a bomb and there wasn't time to alert the police, would you stand by and do nothing because you don't believe in using force?
I for one, would kill the guy who has the bomb.

But the threads done!  I'm watching TV now, I no longer require you to entertain myself, we all already kissed and made up and had the buttsecks.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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As long as were clear on a few things..

I do not approve of the initiation of force under any circumstance.

I do not consent to be governed by anybody, even those calling themselves the united states government.

I do not wish to partake in their 'services'.

A robber with a gun is no different from a government what so ever, and the fact that they offer something in return for the money they forcibly take from you does not change the fact that they forcibly took money from you at the barrel of a gun.

Someone arming a bomb is initiating force.  I'd defensively use force (not initiating), and put a clip into his fruit bowl. 

I'm not a savage at all, in fact i'm a prime example of a civilized person.  I do not harm others unless in defense of harm being done to me. 

You do, meaning, if you ever knock on my door ordering me to pay to sterilize babies, then you will have a war on your hands.

I'm not really interested in your personal life.  It's none of my business.  I came here simply to discuss the topic at hand.  It's unfortunate that you use ad hominem attacks and act so sneeringly over a polite conversation.. but as stated, your the one who agrees with violence.  Not me.  I suppose its fitting, right?


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for all y’all niggaz out there that be puffin shit
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Edited by anyone420 (07/05/08 07:05 PM)

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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: anyone420]
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anyone420 said:
You do, meaning, if you ever knock on my door ordering me to pay to sterilize babies, then you will have a war on your hands.




I never advocated sterilizing babies.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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Gotta get the dumb ones at birth right?  Why wait for them to do dumb stuff.

Just screen their parents and decide from there.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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you act like this was all a joke, but ive seen you make racist comments in the past. youre not fooling anyone. If youre going to be wrong about something at least have the balls to stand by it.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Jack Albertson]
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anyone420 said:
Gotta get the dumb ones at birth right?  Why wait for them to do dumb stuff.



How would sterilizing people at birth prevent them from doing dumb stuff?



Jack Albertson said:
you act like this was all a joke, but ive seen you make racist comments in the past. youre not fooling anyone. If youre going to be wrong about something at least have the balls to stand by it.


You're right, I am racist, but, if you had read earlier...
DragonChaser said:
I will admit though, that I am racist.  I think white people are evil devils that just rape and lay waste to the world.
I think black people are lazy and inconsiderate.
I think Jews are greedy (but hey thats ok, because I'm Jewish so I can say so!).


Ding ding ding ding!
But fine then, I stand by everything I've said in this thread.
And you still haven't proved me wrong on anything.
I've provided evidence to back my claims, and all you've done is gone "DURRRRR, I see no evidence, DURRRRR!".
But I don't really care, judging by your avatar I'd say you're an idiot.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Jack Albertson]
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If you went to a school with all African Americans, you'd talk liek that to.

The fact that african americans in the ghetto's are submersed in a compeltely different culture then us white people in the suburbs.

you grew up differently then them. For you, you wanted to excel in school, sport, art, whatever it si you like.


They grew up to excel in a gang and ditch school cause they make money for their families sellign dimebags on the corner for a gang.


They speak stupid liek that, because they learned their grammar and verbal techniques from growing up in a run down neighborhood were sellign drugs is a way of life. They learn the slang associated with ghetoo cultures to avoid people knowign what they're talking about when they're doing their "thang".


In all honesty though, if you took the same black baby and raised him in a white neighborhood, he'd talk and act white.

Same with a white baby vice versa.


It's their culture, not as glamorous as ours, but they do what they can with it and some of em get out, some don't.

The ones that do it cause they wanna be niggas are the stupid ones.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Brain Fart]
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Awesome response :thumbup:


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: Brain Fart]
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Runnin out of options here man.  You tried sarcastically shrugging off the argument, but then continue to post here.  Tried bein honest about your feelings, but that just invalidated what you were tryin to display earlier.  Tried callin people names, and it also just invalidates your position.  Last option is just puttin everyone on ignore.. that old chestnut.

Don't think its workin out..

You shock a monkey a couple times when he reaches for the banana and even he will learn.

Don't get me wrong.. I used to have some of your views, but when its black and white, its black and white.  No pun intended.


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: anyone420]
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Don't reply at me nigga!


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: anyone420]
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anyone420 said:
Runnin out of options here man.  You tried sarcastically shrugging off the argument, but then continue to post here.  Tried bein honest about your feelings, but that just invalidated what you were tryin to display earlier.  Tried callin people names, and it also just invalidates your position.  Last option is just puttin everyone on ignore.. that old chestnut.

Don't think its workin out..

You shock a monkey a couple times when he reaches for the banana and even he will learn.

Don't get me wrong.. I used to have some of your views, but when its black and white, its black and white.  No pun intended.


I continued to post because other people continued to post.  I'll keep posting during commercial breaks if other people keep posting.
I may have called someone a name, but everyone else was name calling first, so I really don't see how that invalidates my position.
Why would I put people on ignore?  Its a website.  No one cares.
And I am being honest about my views.  I dislike all races, pretty much equally... maybe some more than others.  They each have their own faults, and all of them suck because, well, humans suck.
And I am going to go the substitute route, if not full time teaching, because I want to make a difference in the education system.
(EDIT- I'd rather be a sub than a full time teacher of one subject because all subjects interest me.  I like biology as much as math, and I bet it would be fun to teach history or english as well).
I know that (particularly for math) your teacher, if they care about you, how they get you to relate to the subject matter, how well they know the subject themselves, etc, is a huge influencing factor on students grades.
I really want to get into the classroom and help people with math.  Especially minorities, because they are indeed in a shitty position.
But to quote a dumb quote "knowledge is power", and thats as true now as whenever it became a slogan.
I really think that by helping these kids understand math and excel at it, I could do more for them than anyone sitting in a chat room or message board arguing over whether the SAT is racist or not.
Not many people excel at math nowadays, partly because its kinda boring, but mainly because teachers just don't know how to get through to students.  I think that at my age (22) I'm still young enough to be able to relate, and get them to work hard at math.  Better math skills=higher SAT scores and higher grades in math = access to better universities and scholarships = better overall quality of life later in life.

So like I said, yes I am racist.  But I'm racist against white people too.  And isn't that what's really important here?


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Edited by DragonChaser (07/05/08 08:54 PM)

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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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He's not racist, he's just unenthused with human society, as it is fucked up in all races, because people are evil, usually. =D


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Re: I don't speak rap... [Re: DragonChaser]
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Change the education system by teaching math... hmm

Seems like even participating in it is just negative progress.  The teachers union is one of the most authoritarian and disgusting ones out there.  I believe that government schools are just mandatory state indoctrination camps.  Not to mention that they are now making it a jail able offense to home school your own children in many states. 

Hate to bring back this guy, but one of hitlers first actions as 'ruler' was making government schools to control the minds of the young children.

See alot of dangerous parallels there.

But hey, your a statist so what am i even postin this for.


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