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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84592 - 04/13/00 09:12 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Sup ya'll? I got an e-mail from watercrystals and they said they were perfectly safe.

Hello, person. Thanks for your inquiry on Water Crystals[tm].

The product is completely non toxic. All Water Crystals do is absorb and
store water. For plants. For trees. Turf. Vegetables. Field crops. And
for application in a variety of industries. Side benefits include improve
soil, growing media and less watering.

You can find a copy of Water Crystals material safety data sheet at this
URL:
http://www.watercrystals.com/MSDS.htm

Please let us know if we can help.

Sincerely,

James Fullen
Customer Service, C-Gro Ag Corp
888-599-7141 [719.599.7141]
customerservice@watercrystals.com www.watercrystals.com



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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84593 - 04/14/00 01:41 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

MC Face - I can?t see any reason why you couldn?t place water crystals over your dung casing. But, to avoid any problems I would let the dung casing colonize first, then add the water crystal layer.

Sporez - Great job - Thanks for taking the time to find and post this information.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84594 - 04/14/00 05:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

hi i purchased a 9oz bag of those water crystals (it came out to $22.50 plus shipping and handling for me :/ doesn't seem like it's good to buy it there if u're a foreigner like me), and if you were to look at it's FAQ like page...it says that water crystals can even be put into the freezer to be frozen and can be used as icecubes in drinks. so for all those worrying about consumption of the shrooms, it seems like water crystals is a great alternative for casing. great job psychonaut! :biggrin:


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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84595 - 04/17/00 12:07 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Psychonaut: I am wondering if the mycelium is supposed to grow up through the crystals lika it would a normat casing, or does the fruit form just below and grow up through?

ThE JafF



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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84596 - 04/17/00 05:33 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

It all sounds good. Where do you get water crystals at Psycho?


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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84597 - 04/17/00 05:47 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Very pretty...........makes my mouth water.


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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84598 - 04/18/00 01:13 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Jaff - It works just like a normal casing. It grow up through the crystals.
I've added a couple new pics to the below link so you can see how it works. http://www.geocities.com/bfixxer/documents/Ploytec/index.htm

Agent - You get them at plant nursery stores.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84599 - 04/18/00 01:43 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

using the watercrystals as casing, was watering still required? if so could you give us an estamate of how often?

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84600 - 04/18/00 04:26 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you... I am trying this method with a dilute peroxide added and I hadn't noticed anything growing up to the top of the crystals yet (it had only been two days) amd I was concerned, but tonight it seems to have started... The extra pictures look great by the way... I am trying this with chantarelles and activated charcoal in the very near future...

ThE JafF



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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84601 - 04/19/00 01:56 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Father Mushroom - Watering is still needed,but less often as the water crystals hold a very large amount of water. The amount of watering, depends on the conditions you are growing at. But, in a properly humidified chamber, you should only needed to water once per flush. When the water crystals start shrinking, then it time to add a bit of water.

Jaff - keep us posted on your results

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84602 - 04/19/00 09:53 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

sweet shit Psychonaut. do you simply spray it on and the crystals soak it up, or do you have to fully rehydrate the cystals by resoaking them?

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84603 - 04/19/00 02:03 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Simply spraying them with a mist is good enough. But, don't spray things to much, you don't want the substrate gettting too wet.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84604 - 04/19/00 05:07 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

can u use crystals on the cakes themselves w/no other casing
and can u reuse this stuff


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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84605 - 04/19/00 09:18 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

What a great idea! These crystals are also available at marijuana grow shops. Guerilla gardeners use them for the outdoor grow show :smile:


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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84606 - 04/20/00 12:21 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

psyco - I would recomend crumbling the cake, then putting the cyrstal on top. These crystals can be used with or with-out other casings. They work great with-out any other casing.
These crystals can not be reused.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84607 - 04/20/00 01:51 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Would it be possible for the water that the crystals absorb to be loaded with nutrients prior. This would give a constant flow of good nutrition to the fungus. Just a thought.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84608 - 04/21/00 12:36 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Loading the crystals with nutrients would cause contamination on the casing layer. The reason that water crystals are favorable for casing is that they do not get contaminated. Adding nutrients would change all this.

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Re: Casing with Water Cyrstals (w/pics) [Re: Dan]
    #84609 - 04/21/00 04:05 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if anybody's ever cased straw or birdseed with these?


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