Cervantes said:

but the facts we now live by have extended our life expectancy and allowed us to adventure outside our own world.

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redgreenvines said:

if you just described what you mean by understanding by that last response
I would take it that your meaning involves comprehension with anger and
a compulsion to force submission?

i.e. extra baggage & more intensity than what I would mean by "understanding"

would I be alone at that?

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Let me take you down,
'Cos I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.
Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone.
But it all works out,
It doesn't matter much to me.
Let me take you down,
'Cos I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hungabout.

redgreenvines said:

if you just described what you mean by understanding by that last response
I would take it that your meaning involves comprehension with anger and
a compulsion to force submission?

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And from that response... I'd take you for one kinky guy.

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i.e. extra baggage & more intensity than what I would mean by "understanding"

would I be alone at that?

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i didn't mean basic things like that, i meant it's more the kind of stuff that we mull over, the debatable stuff if you like.

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Pretty hard to draw a line isn't it ? Lets keep from doing so and speak your mind

...but most importantly, what was the question again ?

Grapefruit said:

Well what a week it's been what can i say. From severe anxiety depression and depersonalisation. To none of this. I've had so many beliefs i don't know where to begin.

From never thinking there was god, to actually seeing and feeling i was god/one. Never ever expected that. I saw it as so real. Then i saw it as emptiness after that, I also saw that as real.

I wanted to apologize for thinking i'd come to any correct conclusions.

Emptiness, Oneness, Ego? Who the hell knows what's right. It sure isn't me. People who say the know the truth are almost always lying, to themselves or everyone else.

I doubt anyone can every come to truly correct conclusions.

Maybe that in the doing of searching for the truth we are just getting further and further from it. When i thought i'd lost my ego, that was when it was at it's largest.

Maybe by intellectualizing egolessness, emptiness or ego we are just getting further and further into ego. When you think you have no ego, your mind might be just playing tricks on you and really you have the largest ego of all.

Eventually you just end up trying to be bigger than god. When really it's all just your mind playing tricks on you. So is ego, self-image it's probably false too.

So if you do something and your ego gets really big and you feel anger or self-importance. Then what? Well in my opinion it's just about saying "Hey! You know what? Tommorrow's another day."

You dont have to have Ego, Oneness or Emptiness to feel peace without fear or doubt or insecurities. The mind is a powerful tool, you can bend it to your will, do whatever you want with it. It's free to be yours.

Really letting go? In my opinion? More about not caring if you show a lot of ego and become rash or you show too much harmony and compassion and end up losing out on things.

More about realizing you can't come to any real conclusions. So why try? Just enjoy life for what it is, uncertain and fun.

Ego, Oneness, Emptiness? They can all be felt with validity, all products of the mind. Really though? I don't think there's any point in any of them. We just go over them all thinking about and intellectualizing all of them when you can never arrive at any certain truth, real peace is found when you stop perciving any truth in your mind. When we just give up. Stop mulling over things that just get boring after a while and accept that we dont know. We never can or will.

I still have peace, unconditional love and joy. You need to look to find enlightenment to find these things. Enlightenment is still just a whole lot of bollocks, no one can know something, no one can find truth.

So for all the above reasons im gonna stop discussing truths of life on this forum and with my mates and just apologize for thinking i knew something nobody could ever know for sure.

A never ending search just gets boring after a while.

Peace and love.

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Cheery bye.

Grapefruit said:

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There are those rare times when the product sells itself.

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QFT, quite rare though. Some of the greatest inventors in the world have been poor sales people. They died before their ideas got to market.
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I'll keep my old broom a while longer.

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How about throwing the broom away? And just letting the wind do it's work?

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I think you missed the metaphor....
If you don't clean up the messes yourself as it builds up, you might end up accidentally tracking it in, unnoticed....
The wind will just blow more liter and debris right to your door, and it will just keep piling up....   
Without the clutter, it is easier to focus.... 


>^;;^<

OrgoneConclusion said:

What is the difference between true and very true?

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redgreenvines said:

OrgoneConclusion said:

What is the difference between true and very true?

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how much you feel like nodding when you say it.
you knew that didn't you?

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