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InvisibleSwami
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Why the endless apologies?
    #4111428 - 04/29/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

For why the evidence is lacking for your fave mystical topic? Why the non-stop word finangling, the wraparound "logic", the excuses, the dodging, the attacking and NEVER, EVER anything substantial or solid?

How is this type of baseless belief ANY different than total fantasy?


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111464 - 04/29/05 04:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Many people value comfort over change.

If it weren't true, there would a lesser amount of people in the crime-ridden slums of ghettos... amongst other things.



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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111472 - 04/29/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

"How is this type of baseless belief ANY different from total fantasy?"

Beliefs are not baseless. They are based on the believer. They may be real only to the believer, but they are real nonetheless.

Who are you to judge what is real and fantasy other than from your little window facing the street that you live on. Or so you think it is where you live. But regardless, real to you.

Coppertop.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4111507 - 04/29/05 04:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Everything that exists is "real", for the simple fact that it is within the 'sphere' of existence.
Whether it's a conceptual existence or concrete existence, psychological or physical, objective or subjective, fiction or non-fiction, etc., it is all "real", in the sense that it has a form of existence, one way or another.

What I think Swami is trying to talk about, is within the grand sphere of all existence, there is still the difference between fantasy and non fiction. Both are real, but do not share the same properties OF existence.




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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111576 - 04/29/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry. :tongue:


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4111581 - 04/29/05 05:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Psychoactive1984 said:
Sorry. :tongue:




Dammit! Beat me to it.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #4111609 - 04/29/05 05:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:kodama: :hypno:


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: fresh313]
    #4111620 - 04/29/05 05:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Swami, you first prove your premise of reality. Your own views also rely on the acceptance of unprovable things.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111659 - 04/29/05 05:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Swami, do you ever trust anyone with anything?


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #4111859 - 04/29/05 06:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Swami, you first prove your premise of reality. Your own views also rely on the acceptance of unprovable things.

Great example of what I am talking about.

Are we communicating via a medium that is relatively consistent and can be somewhat understood through the study of known principles? The direct communication between us IS the proof. No BSing from me is needed nor is any belief in science.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4111861 - 04/29/05 06:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Swami, do you ever trust anyone with anything?

It would be impossible to interact in modern society (or any society) with the attitude that you are suggesting.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111880 - 04/29/05 06:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yea it would be, but you seem to always ask for proof for everything, so I thought maybe you a person that doesn't trust people much.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4111920 - 04/29/05 06:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, it has been three hours since I have been analyzed. That is a new record, but I knew someone couldnt resist.

People make false conclusions ALL the time; even when ALL data is present. (See the David Blaine thread.) Most have not been trained how to think properly. All my efforts here have made barely a dent, even when I take things step by baby step.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111954 - 04/29/05 06:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It is just a thought, I'm not kidding my self that I know anything about you, I'm just making guesses, that's all

By the way, you have made false conclusions about me too in the past (not just you, others too), so I think we not different at all in analyzing people


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4111961 - 04/29/05 06:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you have made many false conclusions about me too in the past

Present an example or two from the many, so that I may learn and recant.


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4111990 - 04/29/05 06:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I do not remember, not even one of them


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4112009 - 04/29/05 07:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There were so many that you could not find one example? :yawn:

BTW, nice how you edited out the word "many". Sly, but dishonest. :shake:

Note to audience: See what I have to put up with here?


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4112019 - 04/29/05 07:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I realized that I have partially confused you with redgreenvines that is why I edited the word many


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: Swami]
    #4112025 - 04/29/05 07:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Note to audience: See what I have to put up with here?




Now I'm marked as less intelligent, more childish and less credible, great


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Re: Why the endless apologies? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4112048 - 04/29/05 07:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A simple apology and not an under-handed modification would have been the appropriate response.

My pointing out the deceit makes me the bad guy?  :rolleyes: Any markings were your own doing.

:eek: THIS IS CLASSIC TRANSFERENCE.  :eek:


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