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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: ohmatic]
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i called your post bullshit because how i read it,it seems like some kind of prescription for anorexia

i just believe that protein is the basic foundation for muscle growth and shape


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: alphabeatu]
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I understand fasting will not "sculpt" you. But i think as a short term strategy it will not reduce my lean body %.

Right now im 14 % bodyfat. Im sure if you do the math you will see im already pretty muscular. ( 5'9" and 198 )
Some broad spectrum charts call this overwieght, but thats bull shit. Extra muscle throws them off, they assume no one works out. This is basically true, because something like 15 % of the population acctually gets the recomended physical activity stated by government guidelines.

i'm really curious at what point will i cross into diminished returns and start loosing muscle v fat. Without getting to technical, at what point does my body revert to ketosis?

As far as emotional/spiritual purposes, i have to agree that not having anything ( water and maybe tea discluded ) pass my lips is the way to do this, as being on drugs or gaining nutreients from juice would not suit to strenghten the excersize.

Ive also read that in a normal diet Americans eat more then enough protien. A very small percentage of athletes acctually could benifit from even a small step up in protien consumption. This group would include vegitarians and olympic wieghtlifters, not the average guy that lifts hard < 8 hours a week.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
Without getting to technical, at what point does my body revert to ketosis?


from the point onwards when it produces ketones in order to utilize fats for the gluconeogenesis.

as sort of a "rule of thumb" that usually occurs after about a week with a daily
maximum of ~10g carbohydrates, you will not be able to get below some carbs as
even meat and cheese and stuff got low but present carbohydrates.

the switching face is rather rough on your body and it only takes one "carb snack" to bump you out of ketosis (not talking refeeds),
however bodybuildin.com and and the fatloss/nutrition subforums are the place to talk about that.

i personally wouldnt go the keto way when others treat it as the holy grail,
personally just because its so boring without carbs as youll quickly notice :wink:


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: ohmatic]
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It sounds like a fast of less than a week will not get you into what these die hards do, good reading though; those body building forums. I like the john stone web site, i think its inspirational, till he sold out anyways.

I go on food binges of 3500 calories a day during the summer and i do sweet outdoor excersizes like sports, choping wood, distance biking rollerblading etc.. That bulks you up. The only time ive notices muscle gains is when im eating WELL. Oddly lifting at the gym isnt as good as being outside and active IMO.

          Some people include a fast annually or monthly, im eager to try it for some reason :shrug: Maybe i just want to give my system a little shock. It seems un-natural to eat like we do. We are the only species that eats 3 meals a day and such. Mamals in the wild eat when they can. Basically there is no normal eating in nature. The body should not respond to harshly i  hope.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: rodfarva]
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I've done 6 days without food, but I was probably drinking soda or something with some sugar. I was on medicine that made my stomache hurt though so that helped.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
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Go to this website for the foremost authority on fasting:

www.gandhiserve.org

Search through the files, they have everything gandhi ever wrote. He's the foremost authority on fasting, just search a few keywords.

Having read a bunch of it, he recommends a prodigious amount of water a day with a generous amount of lemon (citrus) mixed in. Also you should cleanse with an enema. This will help you avoid the 5-day diarrhea and might help you break the wall.

IMO and in the opinion of scholars devoted to the issue, Gandhi was a hardcore anorexic. He didn't have an eating disorder for the same superficial motivations westerners had, but he was such an ascetic that he really viewed all sensory indulgence (eating included) as a sin. He hated that he had an appetite and he continuously tried to eliminate it.

I hope you're fasting for spiritual or humanitarian issues and not because you're trying to trim down. That'll make you much fatter in the long run anyway. Unless you're hardcore and decide to exist on lentils and nuts like the G man for the rest of your life.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: kriminalelement]
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8 days, i felt fine.

i've gone a month and a half on severely reduced food intake (half a cup of rice a day). i felt fine.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: truekimbo2]
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Half a cup of rice a day, now that's something that's got my attention. Care to explain more?


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: rodfarva]
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Two weeks on juice, 19 on water.

I like it.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: whattheheck]
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i did it just because i felt like it.

i'm pretty much a glutton, when i was younger i thought i could regulate it.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: Chemy]
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Chemy said:
I've fasted for a month at the longest and many times for a week or so.

My fasts were water only fasts, I didn't weigh myself before and after so I can't help you there.


can't you even move or do stuff when you eat nothing? I mean, human being's don't have photosynthesis:smirk:

What motivation did you have to fast for that long?

Sounds like that must be pretty bad for your body, starting to burn your own fat, AND muscles.

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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: anyone420]
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I went 3 days without food. I had too it was a bad situation. But I don't alot anyways. I only wiegh 160 pounds 6'0 hieght.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: ShiVersblood]
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ive gone on a 2 day eden diet, then for 4 days water only, then another 2 day eden diet. it was an interesting experience. not at all as hard as i thought it would be.

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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: stefan]
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stefan said:
Chemy said:
I've fasted for a month at the longest and many times for a week or so.

My fasts were water only fasts, I didn't weigh myself before and after so I can't help you there.


can't you even move or do stuff when you eat nothing? I mean, human being's don't have photosynthesis:smirk:

What motivation did you have to fast for that long?

Sounds like that must be pretty bad for your body, starting to burn your own fat, AND muscles.


I made another reply in this thread stating that I fasted for spiritual reasons.

The month was the longest fast I did and I will say it was bad for my body and you get extremely weak and lethargic.

But IMO it was worth it.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: Chemy]
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I didn't eat for 7 days during a crank binge.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said:
I didn't eat for 7 days during a crank binge.


Alot of us have gone a ways with drugs, but im staying away this time. I am not so concerned with motive, but i get the feeling a couple of you "know" what im feeling like doing.

I dont have huge reasons, this idea just seemed like something i would do.

ghandi, indeed, mastered the fast. HE must be able to slow his metabolism mentaly. Amazing.

Did anyone fast in preperation for tripping (or doing a drug?) I wonder how if would affect an acid trip...

Better yet, i should not eat for a week then smoke a joint and get some white castles.


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
i was thinking if i dont eat for 4 days with an average intake for me of 2500 kcal/day i should loose almost 3 pounds. (3500kcal/1lb)

How would this feel. What would i experiance?

ive gone a week without a meal hiking. Normally we catch our food but they wernt biting so i live off 4 pop tarts and 2 oz. of beef jerky along with kool aid powder for 6 days. I also ate a couple handfulls of wild berries.

this was rough, with headaches and diahreah setting in by day 5. Hence the four day idea. What do ya'll think?


by the way, im a healthy male 5' 9" and 198 lbs. I play lots of sports and work out 3 + x's a week.


the headaches and diarreha were most definitely (probably) from the poptarts/beef jerkey.  if you take only water you will feel alot better.  after a day or two you will be able to meditate much easier.  i've only done 3 day fasts but i'm pretty skinny and after 3 days i loose all my excess body fat, so i've never tried to go farther.  on your first one don't try for more than 3 days and just "pay attention to your body" if you wanna go farther.

as for what it feels like?  i suggest you do your fast over a weekend or longer break period so you can isolate, meditate, or do whatever you do to get into a peaceful mind state :tripping:... the fasting can create that state somewhat but its most useful when combined with other things.  afterwards your body should feel light and clean.  drinking filtered water before during and after will help your body detoxify.  don't over do it and have fun


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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said:
Better yet, i should not eat for a week then smoke a joint and get some white castles.


horrible idea you could hurt yourself doing that  :2cents:

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Re: how long have you gone without eating? [Re: sleepy]
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sleepy said:
rodfarva said:
i was thinking if i dont eat for 4 days with an average intake for me of 2500 kcal/day i should loose almost 3 pounds. (3500kcal/1lb)

How would this feel. What would i experiance?

ive gone a week without a meal hiking. Normally we catch our food but they wernt biting so i live off 4 pop tarts and 2 oz. of beef jerky along with kool aid powder for 6 days. I also ate a couple handfulls of wild berries.

this was rough, with headaches and diahreah setting in by day 5. Hence the four day idea. What do ya'll think?


by the way, im a healthy male 5' 9" and 198 lbs. I play lots of sports and work out 3 + x's a week.


the headaches and diarreha were most definitely (probably) from the poptarts/beef jerkey.  if you take only water you will feel alot better.  after a day or two you will be able to meditate much easier.  i've only done 3 day fasts but i'm pretty skinny and after 3 days i loose all my excess body fat, so i've never tried to go farther.  on your first one don't try for more than 3 days and just "pay attention to your body" if you wanna go farther.

as for what it feels like?  i suggest you do your fast over a weekend or longer break period so you can isolate, meditate, or do whatever you do to get into a peaceful mind state :tripping:... the fasting can create that state somewhat but its most useful when combined with other things.  afterwards your body should feel light and clean.  drinking filtered water before during and after will help your body detoxify.  don't over do it and have fun


:donut: :pizza: :ramen:


lol, cool.


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