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OfflineGWAR
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using a heating pad
    #816930 - 08/14/02 08:25 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ok, the neighbors cat is planning on trying her first grow today. She's going to do the PFTek/MMGG method the only problem she has is heat. the neighbors use wood heat, and like to keep their house a nice cool temperature in the summer.

she can get a heating pad, but since her owners use it every once and awhile this could only be a temporary fix..

so what is the best way to set up a heating pad?


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: GWAR]
    #817050 - 08/14/02 09:26 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

My suggestion get one of those "Wet" heat pads and place a towel or cloth over it then put your jars on top the pad will use wet heat to incubate the jars so it doesnt suck out all the moisture like a heating pad does...

Heating pads suck i used it to incubate my jars the 1st time but it doesnt help at all - it just sucked the moisture outa the jars and kept them warm but you gota be careful with them make sure it doesnt suck the moisture out! infact my house is kept around 77-78 during the summer sometimes 80 upstairs so i just dont even use any incubation devices because of the hot weather and my jars work and colonize better then using a heat pad

so i would get a wet heat pad or get a fish tank heater(best way to go)

if you must use a pad then put many towels over it and make sure it isnt sucking the moisture outa the jars because then your fucked!!!!!


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: GWAR]
    #817070 - 08/14/02 09:35 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The best way to set up a heating pad for this kind of cultivation is not at all. Use a fish tank heater type incubator - they're more reliable and safer.

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: FanaTEK]
    #817172 - 08/14/02 10:30 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

What about attaching the heating pad outside the incubation area and wrap Tin foil around the whole container. I was thinking of doing something like that with maybe a heating blanket or those heating pads you use for reptiles.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: blazenaz]
    #817199 - 08/14/02 10:41 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, tin foil isn't going to provide you with much heat absorbtion, meaning that when the heater is on the jars are about as hot as the heater, and when the heater is off they're cold. You need something as a buffer between the heat pad and your jars - something that is slow to absorb and slow to release heat.

The other thing about heating pads and blankets is that they can be a fire hazard.

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: FanaTEK]
    #817236 - 08/14/02 10:56 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

good point. I have been trying to figure out a way to incubate without the use of the fish heater and water.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: blazenaz]
    #817267 - 08/14/02 11:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Don't get me wrong - it is POSSIBLE to use a heating pad, but you just need to be aware of the drawbacks.

My cat, when he first started, used to set the bin containing his jars on a shelf above his stereo receiver. After a bit of adjustment, he eventually found a height that kept his jars at a steady 83-97 degrees.

The submersible fish tank heater setup is really dynamite. Just get two big sterilite tubs, put two bricks, submersible heater, and water in one, set the other one inside the first on top of the two bricks, put the top on, and plug in! My cat puts some bleach in the water to ward off living things. Just play with the setting on the heater until you get it to around 85 degrees steadily.

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: FanaTEK]
    #817315 - 08/14/02 11:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, that is how I have it setup for incubating the jars but wanted to try something different for casings. What is the lowest temp that one should have the incubation temp set at? I wonder if the casings would put off enough heat to sustain the right temp


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: blazenaz]
    #818760 - 08/15/02 07:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i have a heating pad for my incu. and grow chamber. i use a rack to hold the rubbermaid just above the heating pad which sits on top of a 10-13 gallon cooler. i use an padded envelope (syringes come in them) to buffer the heat.

my grow chamber stays at 76-78 and incu. at 85-91

works for me

no dry jars

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: yogurt]
    #819137 - 08/16/02 02:16 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

im incubating 6 jars on a heat pad at the moment, its my first grow.....

the jars are sat in a tupperware container that is filled with water.....then i have placed a normal supermarket plastic bag over the top of the lot, seems to stay pretty wet in there

the heat pad is one that home brewers use to keep a big container of beer warm while doing its 'maturing'?

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: GWAR]
    #819147 - 08/16/02 02:42 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I have seen heat rock for reptile cages at the pet store. I don't know if they have a thermistat but you can get a thermistat that a hardware that you plug the heater into.

But thats alot of trouble.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: FanaTEK]
    #821685 - 08/16/02 06:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

FanaTek has a good idea, the water bath he is referring to is quiet and discreet, and it works very effectively. bluhoney


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: blazenaz]
    #822068 - 08/16/02 09:00 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

>>I wonder if the casings would put off enough heat to sustain the right temp<<

That depends on just how big your casing is. If my cat is using individual pans (like turkey or loaf tins) then he will put them in the incubator with the other jars. If it's large enough that the casing is just the entire bottom of the terrarium, then it seems to incubate just fine by itself at room temp (which fluctuates between 75 and 85).

Mycelium doesn't start dying from heat until it hits 106F, so either way it shouldn't really harm your mycelium. around 85F is optimal for incubation, but you still have a 21-degree leeway. Being too cold is usually not a problem (at least not this time of year).

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Re: using a heating pad [Re: FanaTEK]
    #23301464 - 06/02/16 11:18 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

So does the heated water in the primary tub control the temperature of the other tub that the substrates will be in?


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: Jerrydude0430]
    #23301474 - 06/02/16 11:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

This thread is 13 years old. Incubation is outdated and no longer done. Read more current threads if you want good information.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23301480 - 06/02/16 11:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Sorry I was trying to find a thread specific to the question I had


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: Jerrydude0430]
    #23301498 - 06/02/16 11:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

No worries. Just be sure to read info from the last 4 years at the oldest. We have better methods and a better understanding of the hobby these days. Very few people today use incubation. If your room is below 65F then the safe method is to heat the room not the substrates.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23301514 - 06/02/16 11:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Room usually sits at 69-71 degrees F. Will that be suitable for inoculation and fruiting? I've seen multiple answers for what temp should be which is why I was inquiring about a heating pad


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: Jerrydude0430]
    #23301702 - 06/03/16 12:26 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

That's perfectly fine.

I recommend about 68-75, but 65-80 seems to be an acceptable range too. It often just depends on your ability to control the environment. Anything below 65 causes growth to be too slow for many people and anything above about 80 isn't really much benefit and approaches benefiting contamination.

Warmer temps promote faster colonization and growth, but lower temps seem to promote denser fruits, IME.


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Re: using a heating pad [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #23302035 - 06/03/16 02:44 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I thought GWAR was back.  :crazy:


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