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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: Sell Your Soul]
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I'm not sure how ganja killed somebody. Has anyone ever heard of having an allergic reaction to cannabis? I mean i guess its always possible. The only other thing I can think of is if the person had some other kind of condition already that was intensified by smoking, like a heart or lung problem. I dunno.


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: BrainChemistry]
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I know a girl who's allergic to cannabis (she gets all puffy and has trouble breathing when she smokes) but it isn't life-threatening, and it's the only person I've ever heard of having that problem.


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: mayfly]
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yeah i've heard allergies to cannabis, and maybe those people choked on the peanuts?

and who knows, are profits from legalization going to exceed the profits from the drug war? they're making money from taxes and jailing people, why fix a bad thing?

i dunno, maybe taxing legal drugs might be more profitable actually.


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: SleepyF0x]
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KrishnaDreamer said:
and who knows, are profits from legalization going to exceed the profits from the drug war? they're making money from taxes and jailing people, why fix a bad thing?


you realize it costs money to jail people?


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: doitagain]
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wow, that article was so horribly written I feel as though an 11 year old just decided to write what came across their mind (beefing up the verbage just a smidge).

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: BrainChemistry]
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BrainChemistry said:
UK drug death figures: deaths per annum
The Herb- 1




exactly how did someone die from using marijuana?


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: SleepyF0x]
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KrishnaDreamer said:
they're making money from taxes and jailing people, why fix a bad thing?


why fix a bad thing.... Hmmm, maybe because it's bad

as for "they're making money by...", keep in mind that it's
the government making money, not the citizens, it doesnt
trickle back down to us, it only goes to line the pockets of
those holding the power


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
as for "they're making money by...", keep in mind that it's
the government making money, not the citizens, it doesnt
trickle back down to us, it only goes to line the pockets of
those holding the power


what about that whole "budget" thing? ya know - where they spend trillions of dollars? that gets tricked down into the economy? multiplier FTW

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: memes]
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spending trillions by sending money to fight foreign wars,
'peace keeping' missions in croatia and serbia, loans to
foriegn sovereignties that are never repaid, black bag ops
by our government all over the world... this all comes back?

the DoD cant even manage to produce an accounting in the
last 5 years for all the money....


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
spending trillions by sending money to fight foreign wars,
'peace keeping' missions in croatia and serbia, loans to
foriegn sovereignties that are never repaid, black bag ops
by our government all over the world... this all comes back?

the DoD cant even manage to produce an accounting in the
last 5 years for all the money....


no, none of the things you mentioned come back to our economy. was this on purpose? why not make mention of the billions in domestic programs and subsidies, government contracts given to domestic contractors and organizations, and things of that nature?

Not only does the govt invest the principle payment, but wealth accumulated as a result of that funding is subject to the multiplier effect that recirculates these monies through the cash cycle time and time again. The multiplier effect is larger in economies where the marginal propensity to consume (% of income that is spent in consumption) is higher. So, for example, Govt money spent in the US is circulated many times over (due to our nonexistent savings), whereas govt spending in Japan may get cycled through the system far fewer times, due to their relatively high savings rates.

I don't really have the time (or necessarily want to) argue about whether money we give the gov't gets back to us, because it's a subjective matter with heavy arguments for both sides. But don't just write it off as "none of it is coming back to us" or whatever I originally contested against

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: memes]
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meams said:
no, none of the things you mentioned come back to our economy. was this on purpose? why not make mention of the billions in domestic programs and subsidies



you mean like welfare? that only takes from the economy,
I mean if someone isnt working, paying taxes and simply
sponge off the rest of us, is anything really going back
into the economy?

what about farm subsidies, they go out to huge
corporations like monsanto, conagra and HJ heinz, the
small farmers that dont have billions in assets to draw
from for growth yet they have to meet certain criteria to
even be considered for this money, for instance I'd have
to upgrade my tracter to a model that costs $80k in order
to recieve a single $25k subsidy


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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: memes]
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hes trying to point out that the gov't claims to budget trillions into our economy each year in numerous ways but in reality they cant even produce the accounting (which,by law, they are supposed to have to do) showing they spent that money on anything other than themselves and the types of things prisoner#1 mentioned


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
you mean like welfare? that only takes from the economy,
I mean if someone isnt working, paying taxes and simply
sponge off the rest of us, is anything really going back
into the economy?

what about farm subsidies, they go out to huge
corporations like monsanto, conagra and HJ heinz, the
small farmers that dont have billions in assets to draw
from for growth yet they have to meet certain criteria to
even be considered for this money, for instance I'd have
to upgrade my tracter to a model that costs $80k in order
to recieve a single $25k subsidy


Why is it that every time I make a broad statement that is UNCONTESTABLE (ex: the government budget puts money into our economy), you cite a few specific examples that fit your argument?

Of course you can find bad programs and governmental loopholes that don't make sense. We're talking about the management and manipulation (good manipulation) of an ENTIRE ECONOMY here. Not everything is going to work perfectly, or even relatively well for that matter.

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I'm going to class now, and have a busy day - so by the time i get home this thread will be on page 5 or 6 of the pub. As a result, this will most likely be my last post in here.

In conclusion - please drop your closed-minded viewpoints that the government is no good and accept that they help us in a very real and very large way. (no, it's not perfect. No, not everything helps. Yes, some things hurt. Yes, a lot of government officials get paid in the process. No, none of it matters).

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: ashfiken]
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ashfiken said:
hes trying to point out that the gov't claims to budget trillions into our economy each year in numerous ways but in reality they cant even produce the accounting (which,by law, they are supposed to have to do) showing they spent that money on anything other than themselves and the types of things prisoner#1 mentioned


it's the departmenet of defense. they do whatever they want -


edit: just thought of this. Usually - I wouldn't consider the department of defense as an expenditure that gets trickled back down into our economy. But just yesterday I was talking to a friend of mine who's dad is a defense contractor who's business picked up significantly after 9/11. As a result of these increased government contracts they're receiving, the firm (who has stockholders that accumulate wealth as a result of their investment, i'm assuming) gains revenues... which it pays to employees, who get income, who spend their money in stores, which receive it and pay it to their own employees, and so on and so forth, multiplier effect working for us again.

i'm goign to be late - byebyeybeybey

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: memes]
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as of right now the ENTIRE ECONOMY is being flushed down the toilet by upper class bureaucrats who care only for the money they are swiping from everyone else as we speak


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: ashfiken]
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its not just the DoD though they all do what they want b/c we dont do shit about it


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: ashfiken]
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ashfiken said:
as of right now the ENTIRE ECONOMY is being flushed down the toilet by upper class bureaucrats who care only for the money they are swiping from everyone else as we speak


do you really go around speaking such ignorant statements?

i'm an economist. you are? a stoner?

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: memes]
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even not being an economist there is so much a slightly intellectual individual can perceive correctly even w/o choosing a drab ass major like you did. you can take your 4 year macroeconomics degree and shove it bc it changes not what is really happening around us whether you choose to be aware of it or not


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: BrainChemistry]
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BrainChemistry said:
Here is a copy of a list of drug related deaths in the UK.

UK drug death figures: deaths per annum
Alcohol- 4.235
Tobacco- 120,000
The Herb- 1
LSD- 0
Peanuts- 7
Viagra- 7
Ecstasy- 4




do tell where you got this information at.

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Re: Apparently LSD is the "Worst Drug to Take" [Re: THEBats]
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Part 2: On the same search I found a few sites for yes, "LSD Addiction" Treatment. Here is one I found:
Quote:
Getting Help with LSD Addiction

Because LSD causes such a psychological addiction, most people can not overcome the addiction to LSD on their own. Those who are addicted to this drug need professional help, and if you or someone you love has an addiction, you need to seek help before it is too late. There are various drug rehabilitation centers that are ready and waiting to help those who are suffering from addiction to LSD. The help is available to you, but you have to be the one who makes the decision to seek and accept help.



http://ezinearticles.com/?LSD---A-Powerful,-Illegal-Drug&id=532382

Considering that probobly less than a dozen people so far have ever been addicted to LSD I think it is curious how much infrastructure there is to treat LSD "addiction". Maybe Syd Barrett could have benefited, but I'm not really sure who else.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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