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Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion
    #7853047 - 01/09/08 10:54 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Katrina's victims have put a price tag on their suffering and it is staggering — including one plaintiff seeking the unlikely sum of $3 quadrillion.

“There’s no way on earth you can figure it out,” he said. “The trauma these people have undergone is unlike anything that has occurred in the history of our country.””

The total number — $3,014,170,389,176,410 — is the dollar figure so far sought from some 489,000 claims filed against the federal government over damage from the failure of levees and flood walls following the Aug. 29, 2005, hurricane.

Of the total number of claims, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said it has received 247 for at least $1 billion apiece, including the one for $3 quadrillion.


"That's the mother of all high numbers," said Loren Scott, a Baton Rouge-based economist.

For the sake of perspective: A mere $1 quadrillion would dwarf the U.S. gross domestic product, which Scott said was $13.2 trillion in 2007. A stack of one quadrillion pennies would reach Saturn.

Some residents may have grossly exaggerated their claims to send a message to the corps, which has accepted blame for poorly designing the failed levees.

"I understand the anger," Scott said. "I also understand it's a negotiating tactic: Aim high and negotiate down."

Daniel Becnel, Jr., a lawyer who said his clients have filed more than 60,000 claims, said measuring Katrina's devastation in dollars and cents is a nearly impossible task.

"There's no way on earth you can figure it out," he said. "The trauma these people have undergone is unlike anything that has occurred in the history of our country."

The corps released zip codes, but no names, for the 247 claims of at least $1 billion. The list includes a $77 billion claim by the city of New Orleans. Fourteen involve a wrongful death claim. Fifteen were filed by businesses, including several insurance companies.

Little is known about the person who claimed $3 quadrillion. It was filed in Baker, 93 miles northwest of New Orleans. Baker is far from the epicenter of Katrina's destruction, but the city has a trailer park where hundreds of evacuees have lived since the storm.

Katrina, which is blamed for more than 1,600 deaths in Louisiana and Mississippi, is considered the most destructive storm to ever hit the U.S. It caused at least $60 billion in insured losses and could cost Gulf Coast states up to $125 billion, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Most of the claims were filed before a deadline that coincided with Katrina's second anniversary, but the Corps is still receiving them — about 100 claims have arrived over the past three weeks — and is feeding them into a computer database.

The Corps said it isn't passing judgment on the merits of each claim. Federal courts are in charge of deciding if a claim is valid and how much compensation is warranted.

"It's important to the person who filed it, so we're taking every single claim seriously," Corps spokeswoman Amanda Jones said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22571349/?GT1=10755


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7853163 - 01/09/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I think the world would be a much better place if lawsuits required BOTH parties to put up equal money before starting with the winner of the lawsuit taking all. Next, limit the maximum amount that lawyers are allowed to bill for a lawsuit to be a small percentage of the reward, if any. Certainly would stop frivolous lawsuits.


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Seuss]
    #7853184 - 01/09/08 11:28 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

That'd wipe out a mountain of legitimate ones too - cases of people becoming disabled due to employer negligence and no longer being able to work, being cheated on contracts that were to bring in more money than a person or company currently has, stuff like that.


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7853331 - 01/09/08 12:19 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

> That'd wipe out a mountain of legitimate ones too

How so. If it is legitimate, you are probably going to win, thus no problem.


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7853490 - 01/09/08 12:53 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I think Katrina victims should be sued by the rest of us for moving into a sub-sealevel bowl next to the water then making us pay to clean up their uninsured mess.

And now, they're fucking rebuilding in that same bowl. WTF!


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Diploid]
    #7853590 - 01/09/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

they should just revoke the licenses of the architects who designed those levees, i bet they pocketed a lot of money that they should have used to build better levees


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Diploid]
    #7853599 - 01/09/08 01:17 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Yep, if they want to stay there they should have to sign a waver that says they will never get one more penny of federal money for anything!


and this lawyer is smart! Ask for a few quadrillion, and the Federal Gov will probably settle for a few trillion......


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7853719 - 01/09/08 01:40 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

These people got fucked over, that's for sure, but they also expected that they'd get taken care of at no cost to them. That's what happens in a welfare state. If people had a mind set going in that disaster that the responsibility for the protection of their life and property is their own, they would have taken better preventative measures.
If this gets paid out, it represents the whole of the American people being taxed for the needs of no more than half of a million. But this won't be a tax you pay by sales or by income. The money handed out here will be fresh out of the Fed, and people will pay for it by inflation.

INCOME TAX (tax what you earn), SALES TAX (tax what you buy), and INFLATION (tax what you don't buy)


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Seuss]
    #7853726 - 01/09/08 01:42 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> That'd wipe out a mountain of legitimate ones too

How so. If it is legitimate, you are probably going to win, thus no problem.




No. Many legit lawsuits are 50/50 propositions. If they weren't they would be settled. Which is not to discount the perfidy of ambulance chasing cuntrags nor the stupidity of many juries.


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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Minstrel]
    #7853730 - 01/09/08 01:43 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Minstrel said:
These people got fucked over, that's for sure, but they also expected that they'd get taken care of. That's what happens in a welfare state. If people had a mind set going in that disaster that the responsibility for the protection of their life and property is their own, and it really is no one's fault but theirs.

If this gets paid out, it represents the whole of the American people being taxed for the needs of no more than half of a million. But this won't be a tax you pay by sales or by income. The money handed out here will be fresh out of the Fed, and people will pay for it by inflation.

INCOME TAX (tax what you earn), SALES TAX (tax what you buy), and INFLATION (tax what you don't buy)




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Re: Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion [Re: Minstrel]
    #7853746 - 01/09/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Minstrel said:
These people got fucked over, that's for sure, but they also expected that they'd get taken care of at no cost to them. That's what happens in a welfare state. If people had a mind set going in that disaster that the responsibility for the protection of their life and property is their own, they would have taken better preventative measures.
If this gets paid out, it represents the whole of the American people being taxed for the needs of no more than half of a million. But this won't be a tax you pay by sales or by income. The money handed out here will be fresh out of the Fed, and people will pay for it by inflation.

INCOME TAX (tax what you earn), SALES TAX (tax what you buy), and INFLATION (tax what you don't buy)




well said
inflation tax is by far the worst because its under the radar screen
it hurts retired people and people like me who are on a fixed income
its so fucking gay i h8 it
ron paul is really the only person who undertsands this


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