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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Leonidas25]
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It's true Danzig really is a dick, but he doesn't feel like the rest of the people there are really up to his level of competition, and I'm inclined to believe he's right.


He's just using this opportunity as PR since winners of these shows always at least get a lot of promotion.

Of course this attitude really could come back to bite him, he's a great fighter but that George guy really could catch him if he's not careful.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Jadian]
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Holy fucking shit...Tommys a beast...

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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Leonidas25]
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Yeah, Tommy knocked Jorge the Fuck Out!

Best knock out of the season by far.

Tommys going all the way.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Spooge]
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ZoooftheMoon said:
I absoulutely hate danzig. He's so hung up on the fact that he's "so experienced".





That's cuz he IS.

but yeah i get your point.

personally i can relate more to danzig simply because he's right about how stupid alot of the guys act.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Leonidas25]
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Did not expect that one.

Nope.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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those guys are all pussies

that fag that wears his hat all gay and always talks about how not tough danzig is wanted no part of fighting at all - that douche that fought him again was frozen with fear when he got in the ring

Tommy definately deserves a chance in the game - just think how bad he'll be when he actually has skills


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: sucklesworth]
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He will be a force no doubt.

I actually know that guy Ritchie (through Rico). I mean, I only hung out with him a few times, but he seemed alright to me.

It wasn't just him that didn't want that fight though, all of them other than the guy who got it weren't down. At first I was shocked, why not take the fight on nothing other than the off chance you could knock him out. I understand that with a rib injury like Matt (?) had not wanting to fight since the risk of serious injury is more likely, but the other guys I thought should jump at the chance, especially in their situation.

After I thought about it some more though, I guess I see where they were coming from. To just have that sprung on you at last minutes notice has to be tough. Cutting weight like that is a huge strain on them, mentally and physically. Plus, I think fighting is a huge mental game. If you weren't mentally prepared to do it, and didn't believe you could win, you probably won't.

I'd like Jadian and those others who've been posting that do fight to chime in on what they think about taking a fight like that at the last minute.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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I agree with all the what ifs and negitive aspects of taking a fight like that..............but, these guys signed up for that. They knew they were there to step up in case of an injury. Yeah cutting weight sucks - trust me I know all about that. But the fact is a fighter should be ready to go, especially when they know they could be called up at any time.

They were afraid - end of story.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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Haven't watched this latest episode yet so I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to, it's 90% downloaded so I'll chime in after a bit when I figure out what you're asking.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: sucklesworth]
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You've really got to respect taking a fight on such short notice (3 days)...

The game is half mental, half physical, if your not prepared, it will not be a good show and thats the bottom line.

As far as cutting weight... it can suck the life out of you, depending on how much weight you cut and in what amount of time.

Also your body type comes into play big time with cutting weight.

If your one of those guys who carries a little extra weight with him with a little bit slower metabolism, then you wont be affected as much as say someone whos already pretty cut and on the slim side.

Personally the most I've ever cut is about 10lbs, and that was done over about a week and a half to two weeks for a Grapplers Quest BJJ Tourney in 2006.

It diddnt really affect me that much though since I did it over about a two week period, if I had cut that same amount of weight two or three days before, theres no doubt in my mind I would've had my ass handed to me...

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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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I support Arroyo's decision not to fight with a rib injury against a guy like Danzig, that's just asking for a serious injury. Dana White is just proving himself to be more a douchebag every time I hear him speak.

In a situation like TUF I think you have to jump at the opportunity to put yourself back into competition if you've lost already. So if I was in there absolutely I'd want to take the chance if I wasn't hurt. If you wanna go hard you might as well go all the way.

No idea if I answered what you were asking.


Tommy impressed me with his stand up, he's got a lot of potential but I highly doubt the fight would have ended the same way were it not for the eye gouge. Not taking a win away from Tommy, I could see him still taking the fight but you could tell that George just couldn't see some of those shots coming.


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Edited by Jadian (12/06/07 01:29 PM)

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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Leonidas25]
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I think all of those guys were sitting around 190. 20 lbs in 3 days would be ludicrous.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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It would suck, but it's certainly doable. Those guys should be aware of their weight the entire time they're in that house. Sure if you lose and you think you're done fighting you won't be as strict, but you have to have in the back of your mind the chance is there for you to fight again and the stupidest thing to blow a chance on is a few pounds.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Jadian]
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No, you pretty much confirmed exactly what I was thinking.

The only other thing I could add is that I also think being in that house for so long has also really affected all of those guys. I think that might be a factor that you, as a fighter, couldn't speak for. I used to watch it and every time a guy pussed out, I was screaming at him. But after so many seasons, and so many guys being affected the same way, it has to be a huge factor.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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That's a big part of the mental game that fighters have to be 100% prepared for.

In my eyes my mental game is my strongest attribute in any situation or confrontation.

Sure it sucks you've been in that house with only dudes, getting beat on for a few weeks, and now you're asked to fight the best guy in the house on 3 days notice? That would fucking suck, but if you want to be a true UFC fighter you know that's what you have to do.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: HagbardCeline]
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how do you think tommy felt having to make weight 3 weeks in a row with no breaks

he's a big guy so that would be a lot harder than cutting weight once like those other pansies

I would like to bet L_S a taco on this one - I'll take tommy since he picked danzig right off the bat.


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: sucklesworth]
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Danzig will beat him. I'm convinced Danzig can sink a rear naked on anybody.

I just found out yesterday that a guy I was training with has a 10-2 professional record (Only losses to Danzig and Nam Phan) and he still makes less than 1000$ a fight. He should have done this show for sure. I could almost garuntee it would have ended up with him and Mac in the finals and that's a rematch I'd dig, because their first match was interesting. (Youtube Danzig vs Valdez)


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Jadian]
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will do

yeah I think danzig will win, but tommy just has a freaks chance - no way is he as skilled as danzig - thats for sure

I still wanna bet LS a taco on it


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: Jadian]
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yer boy is pretty good in transition - decent fight there


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Re: The Ultimate Fighter [Re: sucklesworth]
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I'll bet Danzig, 2 tacos and one bottle of Bacon Flavored Hidden Valley


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