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Horse poo compost cakes
    #764693 - 07/21/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone had much success with straight horse poo compost in half pint jars? My pet aardvark tried it yesterday and is wondering if it'll colonize.

Any comments welcome. My aardvark will pick up some grain tomorrow for the grain innoculation experiments


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: psyconaut]
    #764694 - 07/21/02 03:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

not if you inoculated it with spores...but if you used some sort of spawn im sure it will work fine.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #764697 - 07/21/02 03:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I was under the impression that you could innoculate straight horse manure compost with spores....I guess I'm wrong?

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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #764718 - 07/21/02 03:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Why can't you inoculate with spores? How does it happen in nature?


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: ]
    #764729 - 07/21/02 03:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

the spores germinate in the cows stomach...where the undigested food is. when the cow takes a shit theres already mycelium growing in it.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #764763 - 07/21/02 03:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

did the cows have to eat their poo to get the spores?


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: diseased]
    #764775 - 07/21/02 04:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hehe...uuhhh...no....but they eat the mushrooms sometimes...or the grass around the dung that is filled with spores from the mushrooms.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #764780 - 07/21/02 04:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yet the spores will germinate in the presense of brown rice flour? But they'll selectively not germinate in the presense of horse manure compost? Even if that compost has stable shavings, straw, kelp and seaweed in it?

Infact, spores will even start to germinate in-situ in a syringe and grow some weak mycelium......but still won't germinate on horse poo manure?

I find all this quite bizzare! Those damn pesky mushroom spores!


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: psyconaut]
    #764782 - 07/21/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i tried once with a compost/straw mix, and it didnt germinate on the compost, but did on the stray strands of straw ( say that 5 times fast ) sticking up from the mix. it then worked its way down into the mix.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #764789 - 07/21/02 04:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

thats exactly what im saying....it needs mycelium spawn to grow on the manure..
spores WILL NOT germinate in just manure or compost....at least im almost 100% positive


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    #764864 - 07/21/02 04:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

VCF


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #764881 - 07/21/02 04:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I was pretty sure it would work

I'm a little concerned the moisture content of my manure is a bit high (it's as it was in the compost pile, but quite moist). I didn't use a vermiculite barrier, silly me.

I'll let folks know how I get on. This is my first use of CaptainMaxMushroom's horse poo compost. It looks like good shit! Came in a nice B.C. Beer Store bag!

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    #764887 - 07/21/02 04:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)


theres


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: CrabbyAss]
    #766122 - 07/21/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

the spores prob. germinated in the vermiculite that had been drenched with the nutrient enriched dung water. once the spores germinated on the vermiculite it probably then spred to the dung. maybe im wrong...but thats what i think.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #766137 - 07/21/02 11:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

how can spores germinate and create mycelium in a verm. layer??
there is no nutritional value there. even stated in pf tek it says to mke sure spores are delivered to the substrate and that if innoculation points are above the nutrients the spored will die.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: psyconaut]
    #766214 - 07/22/02 12:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You really should use colonized rye grain to innoculate your compost. This will put you light years ahead of spore users.
In a jar of rye grain there are about 1000 kernels, each one its own innoculation point and already covered with growing mycellium.

You can resterilize your compost and use it over again.


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: ]
    #766215 - 07/22/02 12:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I didn't have any rye grain....so I was just messing around. Doesn't hurt to experiment

I'll be picking up some grain today....


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: psyconaut]
    #13321604 - 10/11/10 05:59 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Could you use a liquid culture to inoculate the jars?


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #13321680 - 10/11/10 06:13 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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the spores germinate in the cows stomach...where the undigested food is.  when the cow takes a shit theres already mycelium growing in it. 




you dont know this for sure.

spores can survive a cows stomach but where they germinate isnt known


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Re: Horse poo compost cakes [Re: k00laid]
    #13321807 - 10/11/10 06:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

STOP !


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