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Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego'
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I'm finishing up a book by Tolle. Nothing terribly new or mind-blowing to me but it's always nice to read things put in a neat, eloquent manner that you are aware of but is mixed around in the brain.

So, from here, I was wondering if any of you think that replacing possessive words and the all-powerful 'I' with the word ego could change people's perspective.

example: So from here, ego was wondering if any other egos think that replacing...

what, if anything, could result from a greater separation of ego and self on a large scale, in everyday culture/language?


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: demiu5]
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I think that a substitution of words will only be confusing and also that it would probably would bring no achievement.
And I also think that a separation between the "ego" and the "self" would be more detrimental than beneficial. We're entire beings, composed both of ego and self and this is how we work in this human form, so well and complex that it's hard and useless (in this given context) to determine what's coming from the ego and what's coming from the self. Everything the "self" does and is, is being filtered through the ego, so the results can only be a blend between the two of those.
I think that those who claim a total separation from the ego are either delusional or lying. :shrug:
While sometimes it feels that we fully transcended our ego, the feeling lasts short and even if it lasts longer, it is very possible that it is all there is: an impression.
If we were not to use our ego anymore, we wouldn't be able to reason, feel and make decisions. So yeah, the ego is fine where it is and since it is there, it means that we need it.


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: MushroomTrip]
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There's already enough duality, without having to consciously think of ego as something which the speaker is deliberately intending to separate her or himself from, IMO. I am my ego, we are one and the same, so for me it would be like saying, "bug wants to know..." Of course bug wants to know... he's an ego trapped in time!


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: demiu5]
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I think it's a good experiment if it makes you think in new ways. In my view, the ego is just desire working through all the correct and incorrect pieces of information in the brain, using them because they are there. The goal is to maybe improve the quality of information so the ego's producing more desirable results and less undesirable results.

I've read that some monks go through periods where they need to be told to eat and go to the bathroom. :shrug: Just a story.


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comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: demiu5]
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If one learns humility, there is a noticeable reduction in the use of the first person pronoun 'I.' During my very first LSD trip, everytime I said 'I,' I felt in myself and noticed a certain discomfort registering on the face of my tripping buddy Kenny (who, interestingly enough, phoned me last weekend). For a while, when attempting to record acid trips, I used the small case 'i' when referring to my body-mind complex, and an encircled capital 'I' when I believed something transcendental was issuing forth through my mind-body. It was an attempt, but a confused one. I recommed the book The Divided Self by the late great psychedelic psychiatrist R.D. Laing if you'd like to pursue a classic explication of your thoughts. Laing wrote the book in 1960 at age 28 after quite a lot of legal LSD exploration. :wink:

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Of course we are one being. But is the mind and the being one thing?

I think that separation of ego and self would be benificial in some ways, and detract in others.

It would definitely give you a look at yourself that you wouldn't see before. It would allow you to see your flaws through the eyes of some one else, and fix them to better yourself.

Not that one should go against his/her normal state, but if it is in some one's normal state to do this, then what's the harm?

I believe that we are all the same organism essentially. Much the way we are subdivisions of this organism, there are subdivisions within ourselves. Though they co-operate very well, there can be gain brought by separating them.

Separating yourself from ego and mind can allow you to see yourself through another's eyes, though they belong to you.


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: Drewwyann]
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Of course we are one bean. :monkeydance:

You have no way of knowing this.:tongue:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: Icelander]
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I suppose that is true. I was talking in more of the "living creature" sense than the "being" sense though.

I like the monkey.


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: Drewwyann]
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Well he asked how it would be like if instead of "me" we would all say "ego".
In some cases, the separation is so obvious that it doesn't need words anymore.
But this is also something too unique and specific that doesn't have to be applied on a universal scale. Meaning that these are personal experiences and turning them into common language, besides the fact that it would be confusing, it would also take away from their meaning.


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: MushroomTrip]
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hmmm... got a little off topic there. My bad.

Well do you mean that it would be confusing for the general public, or the person saying ego? or both?

Edit: and to the original poster, what book are you reading by him? I just picked up The Power of Now, and I'm pretty fascinated. He really does have a knack for wording things.


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Edited by Drewwyann (11/14/07 04:08 PM)

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: Drewwyann]
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Both :shrug:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: MushroomTrip]
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This doesn't remind anyone of the South Park episode where the boys from South Park fly to another planet and meet Marklars?

Well, all the aliens from Marklar did the same thing you are talking about except they used the word 'Marklar' instead of 'ego.'

I think it would lead society into a condition where social cohesion and loss of ego in the larger group were the norm, rather than the extreme individuation of the people in today's society.


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: NariusFractal]
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Ahhh another south park freak :lol:
Welcome :bongload:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: MushroomTrip]
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:bigblunt:

I do love that show


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Re: Replacing ego phrases/labels with 'ego' [Re: NariusFractal]
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This has sent me spiraling into a Wikipedia-binge of all of these terms.

I'm too fascinated to offer intelligent comment at this time.


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