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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: WScott]
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I have refuted all of these before. You truthers are quite ignorant. Seriously, google is your friend.

Oh, and to the first post your "Dr." Steven Jones is a cold fusion expert...um...that doesn't exist. So 1st he's no kinematic physicist and second no self-respecting physicist works on "cold fusion". I'm pretty sure it violates thermodynamics. (Laymen understanding)

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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this shit is totally untrue and a waste of time for anyone that has enough of a brain to research the subject. Also, it makes people that have legitimate grievances with the government right now look really stupid because 9/11 truthers are obnoxiously ignorant assholes that parade around with "facts" about as reliable as someone claiming to have a roswell alien's arm.

I'm not trying to trash talk, I'm just trying to illustrate the fact that 9/11 was not bombed, OBVIOUSLY.


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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: StanleyPain]
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No way man. Open ended, ridiculous observations by people who have no idea what their talking about and are supported by youtube videos are usually correct. Come on and tell me I'm a sheep, close minded, etc. Wrong. I'm logical and you're a moron(ego death).

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: robbyberto]
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I actually chuckled reading that thanks.

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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Here is another account of gasoline fire causing steel to lose integrity and collapse.  This time it was a small bridge, and a wreaked tanker.


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http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_119083701.html  -Intense heat from the flames exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, causing a 250-yard section of the roadway to collapse onto the roadway below, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.


 

Hmm, dept of transportation.  Maybe another hoax by the government to support the 'official story'?:crazy2:

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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That one was also the government.


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History says, Don't hope

On this side of the grave.

But then, once in a lifetime

The longed-for tidal wave

Of justice can rise up

And hope and history rhyme.

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: MiddleFinger]
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WHATCHU U BOYS THINK BOUT THEM ALIENS


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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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Why would the government want to do that to their people?

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Cheezit]
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Cheezit said:
Why would the government want to do that to their people?


That's gotta be the easiest question for a 9/11 Truther to answer. Regardless of whether you believe the conspiracy theory, it's hard to deny that this administration has exploited the 9/11 tragedy to further its own political agenda. If you go back and read some of the early documents from the Project for the New American Century(to which several members of the Bush administration belonged), you see they were advocating many of the things the Bush administration has done since 9/11, using that tragedy as a premise. If the 9/11 tragedy is a government conspiracy, it would not be the first time a government sacrificed its own citizens for political gain.


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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Silversoul]
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Shampoo is better. I go on first and clean the hair.

No, conditioner is better. I make the hair all shiny and smooth.


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Same thing happened to me when I played Neil Armstrong in Moonshot. They found me in an alley in Burbank trying to re-enter the earth's atmosphere in an old refrigerator box.

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: WakeboardrB]
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You people really have trouble thinking outside the box.

All I ever hear is... the government planned it, or the government didn't plan it.

Consider for a moment this: perhaps the buildings were demo'd, but what if that had NOTHING TO DO with 9/11?

Here is just one example... it be hard to believe, but if you say it's impossible, you're living in a fantasy-world. Hypothetical: For some fucked up reason that the government doesn't want to tell you (because it means shit would really hit the fan at the top top levels, people would go to jail, etc? who knows), those buildings were rigged. Can anyone think of any reasons why we might rig our own WTC buildings, negating any possibility of planes crashing into them? Perhaps we (and when I say we, I mean some small group of top top level government officials) were in on it and decided if the Arabs failed their mission, we would blow those buildings up anyway and blame it on them. I don't really know and I don't think we're going to find out any day soon...

my point is, you people simply piggyback on the ideas of others. I have seen not a single original theory on this board about 9/11.

The conspiracy theorists - some of them are out of their mind. OK we know that.

The anti-conspiracy-theorists - some of them think George Bush is the greatest president we've ever had. OK, we also know that.

When you can stop subconsciously grouping anyone who takes a stand on one side or the other of this issue, then perhaps we can have a meaningful debate. But all I see is a bunch of black-vs-white arguing going on.

Don't you get it? We should all be on the same fucking side here!

Wouldn't it be convenient for the thieves if there was such a mess of confusing facts and false-leads, that people became so busy arguing about them while the pick-pockets were making off with your wallets?

How can ANYONE be comfortable with the amount of questions that went unanswered by the government? I don't care if you believe we have the whole truth or a complete fabrication. EVERYONE should be asking questions, and believe me, there are a LOT to be asked in this issue.

These 911 debunking sites, half of them are just as fucking full of misinformation as the conspiracy sites. Shouldn't the GOVERNMENT be responsible for providing its citizens with reliable information, considering this was the worst attack on American soil in this country's history?

WHAT

THE

FUCK

IS

WRONG

WITH

YOU

PEOPLE?!?


WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!


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The answer to 1984 is 1776.

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: kake]
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Just keep arguing back and fourth over one day's event. Ignore the six years of tyranny that have emerged from it. Ignore the police brutality. Ignore two fucked up nations poisoned by war that will now be terrorist threats. Ignore the backhander deals to companies that give Cheney and Bush significant donations. Ignore the torture, the bloodshed, the mercenary armies, the war on the the american people. Ignore globalism and the formation of African, North american and eventually Asian unions absolving nation states of their liberty.

Just keep shouting back and fourth "Parrafin can burn down steel/Nuh uh!"

911 and the british broadcasting conspiracy


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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: trepanib]
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> I have refuted all of these before.

It doesn't matter because their minds are made up and are not going to change regardless of how much evidence they have to ignore... though they do buy lots of books, thus there is good money in pushing the conspiracies.


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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Seuss]
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The 20 bill speaks the truth... All the evidence I need, hurumph

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Well whatever... This administration (and giulliani) have clearly use 9.11 for their stupid ends, but that doesn't mean they caused it. Just means they're exploitative pricks... and I allready knew that

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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oh please... dont side with rosie odonnel


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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. ~ Albert Einstein
"Fear is the great barrier to human growth." ~ Dr. Robert Monroe



~~~*Dosis sola facit venenum*~~~

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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Go meditate, trip, make art or love, work on your Self (learn to be present in the NOW).

This whole debatable debacle is yet another way for THEM to keep us asleep...

imo.

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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Middleman]
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Re: 9/11 The undeniable facts that support the conspiracy [Re: Ego Death]
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Selective perception: Mentally screening out information or opinions with which one disagrees.

I think we're all doing it here. This is pointless.


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