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sometimes i miss the young life.
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when i find myself reminiscing, i can't help but feel i miss the golden beauty of my younger life. i miss the innocent magic of falling in love. i miss growing and learning with my fellow friends. i miss growing up as a teenager, with everything bright and new and mesmorizing. it's true that i am still young, but i feel that theres a certain deal of magic that we lived through that was indeed very meaningful and brought us to where we are now, and sometimes i can't help but look back in wonder...

i miss doing the weird things as a kid with my friends. going to the mall every fridays after school in middle school and highschool just to walk around and look at girls. i was laughing and having so much fun... i had my whole life ahead of me. (and i still do.)

not much has changed. i still laugh and have a great time...
but it's with different people at different places.

it's funny how so many small events over the course of a year or 2 can take us to so many new levels of living or to new places with new faces feeling new things or behaving in ways that we never imagined. i'm amazed by how easily we are all influenced and inspired, and how we act out with such inspirations or influences.

i could have never of guessed that i would wind up at this place in time, feeling these things, talking to these people, doing these things, being this person. and even though the past is bright and untouchable and it gives us something to strive for and we constantly feel it holding us back, it's important to look ahead to a bright and limitless future and live everyday like it's our last, making tomorrow as beautiful as yesterday.

thank you for your time.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: lysergicide]
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It will only get more so.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: lysergicide]
    #7441111 -

have a kid for the sole purpose of living vicariously through it.


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: TODAY]
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But make sure it turns out exactly like you.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: TODAY]
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TODAY said:
have a kid for the sole purpose of living vicariously through it.


:lol:  Only someone who is not a parent would recommend this as a way to remain youthful!

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: Veritas]
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I'm having different ladies pop them out left and right, mostly every week. I have a mortality complex...


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: TODAY]
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I do not believe you.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: Veritas]
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veritas indeed...


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: lysergicide]
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In my opinion it's a mistake to believe that life loses from it's magic when we "grow up". In fact it's us who become unable to enjoy life as we did once. And this is because instead of growing up we grow old. There's a certain seriousness which is being expected from us (coming from others and ourselves), which is highly detrimental to being able to feel exaltation. We can remain honest without having to adopt a morgue like attitude. That feeling of nostalgia can be a great sensation only in certain measures, because if we insist in feeling so more than it's necessary we already become somehow addicted to the past, which is exactly what's keeping us from seizing the state of bliss which the present has to offer. :heart:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Purty good.Purty good:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Indeed, seriousness is death.  :tongue:  I do all I can to remain silly and boisterous--the opposite of serious.  Sometimes my attitude is not received well, but then a cemetery is not a rave. :shrug:

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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i was thinking it, but you said it better than i could.

our society is set up in a way that "forces" us to live in a way that detaches us from that "child like wonder" that we all have the capability of using, as well as forcing us away from the interactions that we would like to have.

i remember when i was in college and some kid told me "you ask 'i wonder if...' too much".

i seriously wanted to slap that kid, instead i just laughed at him.


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May our only occupation be not having a job.
May the only cocktails that we make be molitov.
-Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: lysergicide]
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Then what is your problem? Just be young.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: lysergicide]
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"...it's important to look ahead to a bright and limitless future..."

Sorry to burst another bubble lysergide, but this strategy belongs to late adolescence. You cannot possibly be in your 30s yet if you hold to this concept. It is just another concept that buffers youthful people from death anxiety.

Middle schoolers use the common anxiety-buffer of insisting that they will be some kind of superstar and the money will turn into a surrogate parent. They believe that they don't need an education because with enough money they can have people think and do for them. They use this so ward off the unknowns of the future - what they will actually have to do for a living, which in their concrete little minds amounts to their entire identity. What?! I'm gonna be a plumber, not a rap star?!! The horror!! Make 100K a year - chump change, not 10 million?!

The only strategy that works across the lifespan is to enter into the Present, which annihilates the accumulation of "psychological time." This subjective form of time has a clearly objective effect on each individual. One of the main reasons why parents frequently seem to age more quickly than non-parenting adults, for example, is not because parents work harder, but because every little milestone that they note in their children causes them to identify more and more with their temporal self, their chronological duration in time instead of their Presence of Being which is timeless. This does not always reflect on skin quality or muscle tone (without taking care of those aspects), but an inner child-like (not childish) enthusiasm is evident. [Deepak Chopra does speak to the studies of positive effects of timelessness on the mind-body in Ageless Body, Timeless Mind].

I'm 54 and I cannot entertain buffering illusions about a "bright and limitless future" and btw, neither can you. As my mother-in-law says: "Tomorrow is not promised." Live IN the moment, not FOR the moment. The former is pregnant with Being, the latter is merely desire-based and filled with fear of its end. This is what is enlightening about tripping - one is riveted to the Here & Now, neither regretting the past or fearing the future but dwelling in a timeless Present, which in fact, is all there is in Reality. It is only when we go 'out of our mind,' which is to say, out of our thoughts, do we dwell in Timeless Awareness which is Reality and which is the only true source of human fulfillment.

Peace.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Great post, Markos. :thumbup: I couldn't have said it that well had I tried.

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: adrug]
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Thanks adrug. In the words of Deepak Chopra:

"In the state of timeless or transcendent awareness, you have the sensation of fullness. In place of change, loss, and decay, there is steadiness and fulfillment. You sense that the infinite is everywhere. When this experience becomes a reality, the fears associated with change disappear; the fragmentation of eternity into seconds, hours, days, and years becomes secondary, and the perfection of every moment becomes primary."

Ageless Body, Timeless Mind, p. 32


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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be here now [no matter your age].


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YIPPIE!

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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but isnt our being in the present just another anxiety buffer against what we know awaits us in the end.

im sorry but i just dont understand how your idea of being here now is any different than the teenagers fantasy. you spout it off as if it were ultimate truth and as if you had some way of KNOWING it is ultimate truth.

ultimately we all go through the same shit, feel the same things, want the same wants, and fear the same fears.
to me its about experiencing this that makes being a human human. not trying to rid oneself of all things keeping them from the perfection of the present moment.

im not serious in criticizing your ideas markos and in fact i definetly agree with the idea that if we stayed in the present moment we would have a lot less suffering. im kinda trying to play devils advocate but show that there is a beauty in the attached, craving, suffering part of our existence as well. and that if in the end we all go to smoke anyway. why not live it up?:)

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: evolprim]
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This fucking awesome post earns you five dude.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: sometimes i miss the young life. [Re: evolprim]
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Shifting from identification with thinking to identification with the spacious Consciousness in which thoughts arise is exactly what Buddhism teaches as well as fully-realized eschatologies as those found in Gnostic Christianity or Hindu non-dualist Advaita. The same radical shift occurs in Kabbalism when one stops identifying with the thoughts, feelings and sensations of the embodied ego, crosses the Veil of Paroketh, and identifies with the Witness Consciousness of Tiphereth.

Without having to acquaint oneself with the copious literature belonging to all the above-mentioned traditions, one could read Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. Using Tolle's vocabulary, you are identified with the "pain body," and no, I do not find beauty in suffering although I recognize that a huge portion of the world is basically unconscious, and it is the "pain body" that those people identify with. Just ask my mother-in-law. Within five minutes of meeting her, she'll be telling you about her two prosthetic kness and hip, how much pain she lives in. If one attempts to help her with sound advice such as weight loss, exercise, change of diet, the "pain body," which she has assumed herself to be, protests in defense. Tolle points out how many people watch violent films, violent news programs both designed to appeal to those people who are identified with their "pain bodies." There is a tremendous industry for this - it is 'The Matrix' of our increasingly violent culture, not to mention the world. Whole cultures are about the "pain body" in more physical ways - the Middle East for example.

I have fallen asleep in my practice to Awaken many times since first awakening in the early 1970s. My last period of spiritual unconsciousness probably has lasted 20 years with only occasional (usually psychedelic) moments of lucid Awareness. I AM certain of the Reality of Consciousness as the Ultimate substratum of this universe of which we are a part by simply allowing stillness to dominate my inner and outer life. Tolle's book A New Earth elaborates this point in ways that three decades of reading and meditation have not. Perhaps it is because I have finally become 'ripe' and have stopped merely thinking about all this as you apparently still do but simply dwell in Being. It is experienced as 'space,' not spatial space, but the longer and longer gaps between sensory experience and subsequent labelling, the emptiness that surrounds each of my thoughts because thinking is not compulsive like it has always been. Here, I am being very deliberate in my thinking.
I'd add that it is the same with emotions, which like colors, I've always favored in pastel shades rather than those screaming to be acknowledged. Now I watch them arise and pass with less and less attachment to them. This is not a 'spaced-out' condition, rather, it is clarity without the constant static of sensory, cognitive and affective noise. It is pale blue sky without thunder and lightning, hurricanes and tornadoes of emotion. More and more it is the Way I have always sought to BE.

The following Biblical quotes are in direct opposition to Awakening to Being. These symbolic activities indicate 1) The life of natural unconsciousness or 2) the return to 'the matrix' of the unconscious (like the character Cipher in the movie 'The Matrix') after one has had a glimpse of Being. The dead being raised, from a Gnostic Christian interpretation, is just this radical shift from living the dead existence of unconsciousness to being raised to Eternal Life, which is life identified with Being, not with the life of biological becoming and dissolution.

"A man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and be merry." (Ecclesiastes 8:15)

"Let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we shall die." (Isaiah 22:13)

"If the dead are not raised,`Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die." (I Corinthians 15:32)

Form alone perishes and my preference is to voluntarily 'lay down my life' rather than experience being snatched from life while identified with embodied ego. It is a matter of living in Samsara AND Nirvana. I know that both are ONE but I do not wish to be deceived into falsely believing that only the former is what a human being is. Human is Samsaric, Being is Nirvanic. It is the Kingdom of Heaven which is spread out before men, but they see it not because they are too preoccupied living only in form. I have experienced Transcendental Formlessness in ways that have convinced me of its Ultimate Reality and of my true identity as Being THAT. That it is the only source of fulfillment is also something that I have learned and continue to learn now much more on a moment-to-moment basis than merely during an occasionally mind-blowing [Nirvanic] trip.

I would end by saying that Awakening is not a choice of ours. I mean, for decades it has been an intellectual idea, an egocentric desire 'to be enlightened,' and hence fulfilled, but now, I am experiencing more of the Now along with a falling away of most of the desires that run most people I meet. Something is clearly happening and I'd like to say "It's about time!," but in Reality, it's about the Eternal Present.

Peace.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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