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Madtowntripper
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Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This?
#7445157 - 09/23/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3033203
A-Rod's agent reportedly talking to potential Cubs owners
New York Magazine reported on Sunday that the Yankees third baseman could end up with the Chicago Cubs next season with a blockbuster contract that includes an ownership stake in the team.
Although he's had his ups and downs in New York in his four years there, A-Rod has carried the Yankees this season and has basically wrapped up the American League MVP award. Rodriguez is batting .312 and leads the league with 52 home runs, 146 RBIs and 138 runs scored. New York is only 1½ games behind the Boston Red Sox in the AL East and leads the wild-card race by 5½ games.
A-Rod's huge numbers couldn't have come at a better time. Ten days after the World Series ends, A-Rod can opt out of the $252 million contract he signed with the Texas Rangers six years ago.
According to the magazine, Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, has already identified the leading candidate to buy the Cubs and has begun negotiations on a mega-deal. The publication's sources say that the deal could reach $30 million per year over 10 years, with part of the contract deferred toward an eventual stake in the franchise.
The Red Sox have also been mentioned as a possible destination for A-Rod. The team came close to trading for him before he ended up in New York.
Yankees' executive Randy Levine responded harshly to the magazine piece.
"It's a silly story, and we don't believe it," he told ESPN.com's Buster Olney on Sunday evening. "However, if it was true, it would be grounds to disqualify the applicant even before he went through the process, because it would demonstrate a disregard for major league rules and procedures, and we're confident the commissioner would feel the same way."
Levine later said he spoke to Bud Selig, and the commissioner agreed with Levine's interpretation of the story, and its possible implications. A player can neither have part ownership of a team nor negotiate for future ownership.
The Yankees, who are all but assured of making the playoffs for the 13th straight season, likely won't watch A-Rod walk without attempting to sign him to an extension. But they have to act rather quickly. The Rangers are paying $29 million of Rodriguez's remaining deal. The moment he opts for free agency, the Yankees lose that money. They keep it if they can sign A-Rod to an extension.
So in the midst of a playoff run, the Yankees must decide what to do with the guy that got them there.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7445224 - 09/23/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I've heard all about this and I think it's ridiculous honestly. As stated at the end of the article:
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Levine later said he spoke to Bud Selig, and the commissioner agreed with Levine's interpretation of the story, and its possible implications. A player can neither have part ownership of a team nor negotiate for future ownership.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7445230 - 09/23/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read that as well.
But Scott Boras....
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7445263 - 09/23/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Click the link you posted to the article, it has been updated.
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Alex Rodriguez may redefine the term "franchise player," but his agent denies a report that he might soon become a franchise owner.
New York Magazine reported on Sunday that the Yankees third baseman could end up with the Chicago Cubs next season with a blockbuster contract that includes part ownership of the team.
According to the magazine, Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, has already identified the leading candidate to buy the Cubs and has begun negotiations on a mega-deal. The publication's source says that the deal could reach $30 million per year over 10 years, with part of the contract deferred toward an eventual stake in the franchise.
The Red Sox have also been mentioned as a possible destination for A-Rod. The team came close to trading for him before he ended up in New York.
"Great players with great demand create great rumors," Boras said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press on Sunday night. "While I would enjoy having lunch with Mark Cuban and [John] Canning, at this point of the year that conversation would not include Alex Rodriguez. I have not talked to anyone."
Canning, chairman of private equity firm Madison Dearborn Partners LLC, is thought to be a favorite to buy the Cubs from Tribune Co., which is in the process of being purchased by an entity controlled by real estate investor Sam Zell. Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks owner, submitted an application to examine the Cubs' finances.
Speaking before Sunday's 7-5 win over Toronto, Rodriguez said the report was "nonsense," as far as he knew.
Although he's had his ups and downs in New York in his four years there, A-Rod has carried the Yankees this season and has basically wrapped up the American League MVP award. Rodriguez is batting .312 and leads the league with 52 home runs, 146 RBIs and 138 runs scored. New York is only 1½ games behind the Boston Red Sox in the AL East and leads the wild-card race by 5½ games.
A-Rod's huge numbers couldn't have come at a better time. Ten days after the World Series ends, A-Rod can opt out of the $252 million contract he signed with the Texas Rangers six years ago.
Yankees' executive Randy Levine also responded harshly to the magazine piece.
"It's a silly story, and we don't believe it," he told ESPN.com's Buster Olney on Sunday evening. "However, if it was true, it would be grounds to disqualify the applicant even before he went through the process, because it would demonstrate a disregard for major league rules and procedures, and we're confident the commissioner would feel the same way."
Levine later said he spoke to Bud Selig, and the commissioner agreed with Levine's interpretation of the story, and its possible implications. A player can neither have part ownership of a team nor negotiate for future ownership.
The Yankees, who are all but assured of making the playoffs for the 13th straight season, likely won't watch A-Rod walk without attempting to sign him to an extension. But they have to act rather quickly. The Rangers are paying $29 million of Rodriguez's remaining deal. The moment he opts for free agency, the Yankees lose that money. They keep it if they can sign A-Rod to an extension.
So in the midst of a playoff run, the Yankees must decide what to do with the guy that got them there.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7445278 - 09/23/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats funny, I read that not 5 minutes before I posted.
It didn't take them long to cancel that rumor...
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7445284 - 09/23/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah it's been updated 3 times since you've posted it from what I've seen. They must be scrambling to fix that over at ESPN.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7445313 - 09/23/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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On another note... back in March A-Rod himself said that he 100% wants to stay in NY:
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TAMPA, Fla. -- Alex Rodriguez tried to leave no doubt: He wants to finish his career with the New York Yankees.
Say What? "You're asking me what my sincere feeling is. I want to 100 percent stay in New York. Period. That's it. I don't know how many ways I can say it." -- Alex Rodriguez, on WFAN-AM's "Mike and the Mad Dog."
"Either New York is going to kick me out of New York this year, say 'I've had enough of this guy, get him the hell out of here,' and we have an option. Or New York is going to say, 'Hey, we won a world championship, you had a big year, you were a part of it and we want you back.'" -- Alex Rodriguez, in the same interview.
Then he left it all up to the fans.
"It's a do or die situation," he said on WFAN-AM's "Mike and the Mad Dog" show. "Either New York is going to kick me out of New York this year, say 'I've had enough of this guy, get him the hell out of here,' and we have an option. Or New York is going to say, 'Hey, we won a world championship, you had a big year, you were a part of it and we want you back.'"
Later, Rodriguez said the rapid-fire nature of the interview -- he described it as "an absolute dogfight for 15 minutes" -- led to those comments.
"You're asking me what my sincere feeling is. I want to 100 percent stay in New York. Period. That's it. I don't know how many ways I can say it," he said on the show.
Rodriguez told hosts Mike Francessa and Chris Russo that in his MVP year of 2005, the fans at Yankee Stadium were incredibly supportive.
"In 2005, riding the wave of the fans was an unbelievable experience," he said, according to the New York Daily News. "Sometimes, you come out a little tired, but the fans get behind you, chanting 'MVP!' and before you know it, you have two home runs and five RBIs."
That wasn't the same in 2006, when he was booed at Yankee Stadium and by his own admission, tried to do too much to turn the boos into cheers.
"When you try to fight that wave of the fans being negative, expecting you to do things and you're playing pretty lousy on top of it," Rodriguez told Mike and the Mad Dog, "then you try to do a little more than you have to."
The two-time MVP is entering the seventh season of his $252 million, 10-year contract, a deal he signed with the Texas Rangers. He can opt out of the agreement after the season, forfeit the $72 million owed in the final three years and become a free agent.
"The next time we're going to talk about this is hopefully in very late October," Rodriguez said. "I want to be here. I want to stay here."
Asked before Wednesday's game against Minnestoa about the questions involving A-Rod, Yankees manager Joe Torre said: "I'm sure he's going to be asked on a daily basis about what's going to happen at the end. I know it's not going to be easy for him to say I'm not thinking about it."
Torre, who said he hasn't spoken with Rodriguez about the opt-out clause, also said "I hope he doesn't add that to everything he has to deal with at this point in time. It's tough enough playing this game without looking for the finish line to soon."
Torre added: "The fans are a pretty good indication on a daily basis on how they feel about you. But again, they're here to enjoy themselves. They're not here to necessarily make you feel good about yourself."
Rodriguez told WFAN there were probably five or six teams interested in acquiring him this offseason, but he had no interest.
"You never want to feel that you're holding a team hostage," Rodriguez said. "I want to be in New York. This is the place I want to finish my career. That's it.
"We had options and we all know that, but I want to be in New York. That's it."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2797798
I firmly believe that A-Rod knows where he belongs. Hopefully the Yanks offer him a very cushy extension after the season he's had this year. He's a great player and it'd be a sad loss if he was to leave.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7445359 - 09/23/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about Joe?
Think he's gone?
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7445436 - 09/23/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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do you really think that a-rod meant it when he said he wants to be here? iirc he said that very early in the season. all it would have taken was an extended slump and the fans would have booed him out of town.
now he carries the team and he's gonna bail after the season. i don't blame him.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: ledfut]
#7445496 - 09/23/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Due to lack of being able to put it any better than this guy I'll just quote him. This was a comment somebody made on espn.com in response to the news article madtown posted and I agree with his opinions pretty much 100%.
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And the Scott Boras chess match begins...
When the smoke clears, I think the Yankees will offer A-Rod an extension in the neighborhood of $150-160 million for six years, plus bonuses for MVPs, etc. and a clause which guarantees that he stays the highest paid position player on at least an averaged basis or gives him an out if he does not. This would combine with his existing $72 million / three year deal to lock him up for nearly a decade, and is probably the most any team could sanely offer.
If the story plays out the way A-Rod and the Yankees hopes, he catches Bonds for the career HR record and wins a few rings along the way, and goes into the history books as another pinstriped legend. The A-Rod mystique, along with the new stadium, gives the Yanks the marketing pull they need to reach new revenue heights, and everyone's happy.
Or, some other team with less financial opportunity (that'd be all of them) foolishly bids even more for A-Rod, and he foolishly takes it. A-Rod flails in futility as his new team fails to put talent around him, ultimately becomes a footnote in baseball history and a lightning rod for the discontent of his new team's fans, and nobody's happy. I suppose this is possible, but...I have to think A-Rod learned a thing or two from his time with the Rangers - and I think a lot of teams learned from watching that episode, too.
To answer your question yes I do believe A-Rod meant it when he said he wants to stay in NY, for all of the obvious reasons.
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Edited by matt (09/23/07 08:12 PM)
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7446256 - 09/23/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, and Nick Saban said the same thing. Athletes and coaches lie (as they should) during the season so it isn't a distraction.
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Re: Oh, And Did The New Yorker's Read This? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7446796 - 09/24/07 07:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: What about Joe?
Think he's gone?
After crushing the Cubs in six games and delivering New York's 27th World Series Championship Joe will walk off into the sunset leaving a place for either Joe Girardi or Don Mattingly to step up as Yankee skipper. As for the Cubbies, well, good luck next year!
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