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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: jewunit]
#9765775 - 02/09/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090209&content_id=3811116&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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A-Rod admits steroid use in Texas
Three-time MVP 'deeply regretful' for use of performance enhancers
By Bryan Hoch / MLB.com NEW YORK -- Alex Rodriguez admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs in an interview on Monday with ESPN.
Rodriguez told veteran baseball reporter Peter Gammons that he used steroids "for a period of time" and only when he was with the Rangers. Rodriguez played for Texas from 2001-03 before being traded to the Yankees prior to the '04 season.
"When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure," Rodriguez said. "I felt like I had all the weight of the world on top of me, and I needed to perform -- and perform at a high level -- every day.
"Back then, it was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young, I was stupid, I was naïve. I wanted to prove to everyone that I was worth being one of the greatest players of all-time. I did take a banned substance, and for that I'm very sorry. I'm deeply regretful.
"I'm sorry for that time, I'm sorry to my fans, I'm sorry to my fans in Texas. It wasn't until then that I ever thought about substances of any kind. Since then, I've proved to myself and to everyone that I don't need any of that."
Sports Illustrated reported on its Web site Saturday that Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, testosterone and Primobolan, during his 2003 American League MVP season.
"It was such a loosey-goosey era; I'm guilty for a lot of things," Rodriguez told Gammons. "I'm guilty of being negligent, naïve, not asking all the right questions. To be quite honest, I don't know exactly what substance I was guilty of using."
The full interview will be broadcast on the 6 p.m. ET edition of SportsCenter and will be posted on ESPN.com.
Earlier reports Monday said that Rodriguez has been consulting with his long-time representative, Scott Boras, to decide how to respond to the bombshell that pegged him as one of the 104 players who tested positive in Major League Baseball's 2003 survey testing program.
Rodriguez had not commented publicly since the story broke, having been on a short vacation in the Bahamas. The Yankees have so far declined comment.
The alleged positive tests for testosterone and Primobolan came during a season when A-Rod led the AL in home runs, runs scored and slugging percentage. Penalties for positive tests were not in place until 2004, and there is no indication that Rodriguez tested positive anytime after '03.
Boras told Fox Sports on Saturday that even if the SI report is accurate, "It was one season, and since then, Alex has gotten the 'Good Housekeeping' seal the last five years by passing baseball's drug tests."
Boras and Rodriguez had a famous falling out, after the agent leaked word of A-Rod's decision to opt out of his Yankees contract. Rodriguez has said that he was "white as a ghost" when news of the decision broke during Game 4 of the 2007 World Series between the Red Sox and Rockies.
The Yankees had said at the time they would not negotiate with Rodriguez, but with A-Rod desperate to stay in New York, the slugger shunned Boras and personally negotiated aspects of a new 10-year, $275 million contract with ownership.
The slugger has continued to keep Boras as his baseball representative, but he has also looked elsewhere for guidance. In December 2007, Rodriguez signed on with Madonna's agent, Guy Oseary, to explore opportunities to expand his image and brand.
A friend of Rodriguez's told the Post that Boras could be a good person to turn to at this time.
"I feel like he needs help with stuff right now," the friend said. "When they were a tandem, there was more good than bad. For a little while now, it's been one nightmare after another."
Rodriguez does not have to report to the Yankees' Spring Training camp until Feb. 17, but he has a public event scheduled this week. The University of Miami plans to honor Rodriguez on Friday at a rededication of its baseball field, Mark Light Field at Alex Rodriguez Park.
A-Rod donated $3.9 million to the school, which he planned to attend before being selected No. 1 overall by the Seattle Mariners in the 1993 Draft. The Palm Beach Post has reported that the event will go on as planned.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#9765800 - 02/09/09 01:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think coming out and admitting it was a good play. He used for a period of time but has been clean for years. Now all speculation is dead and it's time to move forward and go after the motherfuckers who leaked his name. They deserve to go to prison.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#9765853 - 02/09/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now if any of these other listed players are men and give a shit about Arod or the fraternity of MLB players, they will stand up with him. I don't expect them to, but it's the right thing to do.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#9765855 - 02/09/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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matt said: Now all speculation is dead and it's time to move forward and go after the motherfuckers who leaked his name. They deserve to go to prison.
100% absolutely and with extreme prejudice. He has hundreds of millions of dollars and I hope he spends a few thousand on investigators to find this out. He doesn't need to be a passive victim, he has the wherewithall to fuck these people unto the ends of the earth. Expose THEM. See how they like it. There is no court order protecting these criminals. Maybe that will stop this kind of shit. Waterboarding the cunt Selena Roberts would be an excellent start.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: zappaisgod]
#9766167 - 02/09/09 02:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Zap, you should write hallmark cards.
Anyway, I agree, ALL these liars and cheats need to go down. ALL of them. The players, the leakers, it's all gravy.
I've been waiting for this since 1997. Having to deal with the enormous ignorance of the average baseball fan over the past decade has been rough.
"Man I gotta get on creatine like Mark and Sammy"
"A-Rod would NEVER do juice"
And so on and so forth.
Every day guys like Ken Griffey Jr, and Vince Coleman, and Mark Grace look better and better.
Let's get some heads rolling!!
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: whattheheck]
#9766445 - 02/09/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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"A-Rod would NEVER do juice"
As a few posters in this thread have vehemently claimed and flamed the shit out of those who claimed otherwise. It's hilarious to read their old posts.
Seriously though, I wonder who else is on that list. As much as I love the Red Sox I'd have to admit there are a few players that might be on that. The whole team got a pass during the Mitchell Report due to a blatant conflict of interest and I'd be willing to be that at least one or two of them have done it at one point. My money would have to be on David Ortiz unfortunately.
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Yeah, I would think so about Ortiz.
And I'm glad I'm not the only one paying attention to what people have said. I have a few people I'm going to hit up and rub this in their faces a bit about A-Rod.
These were the people that acted like Mac and Raffie and Sammy were the only ones. 
I want to see Roger Clemens name on that list so he can go to prison for a bit.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: whattheheck]
#9766533 - 02/09/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I want to see Roger Clemens name on that list so he can go to prison for a bit.
It's pretty obvious Clemens was juicing. He was already exposed in the Mitchell Report for using HGH.
Check out his confession ( obviously a joke)
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: whattheheck]
#9766558 - 02/09/09 03:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd rather see Clemens' name not on the list so the rat McNamee can get cornholed. No matter what the truth about Clemens is the truth about McNamee is that he is a rat. I don't think much of rats.
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THE KRAT BARON
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"A-Rod would NEVER do juice"
As a few posters in this thread have vehemently claimed and flamed the shit out of those who claimed otherwise. It's hilarious to read their old posts.
I never would have seen this coming and I'm very disappointed that A-Rod has juiced in the past. Yes I used to vehemently believe that he did not juice. So what? Do you have a point you're trying to make or are you just being a typical condescending angst-ridden RS fan?
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#9766624 - 02/09/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do you have a point or are you just being a typical condescending angst-ridden RS fan? 
Guilty as charged.
It IS seriously funny to read your old posts though and I'm honestly just rubbing your faces in it because you guys were SO sure of yourselves. Heck and I are just having a laugh at your expense.
In all seriousness, I'd bet most of the great players of our generation had a little bit of "help." I already put it out there that David Ortiz is a likely candidate but how fucked up would it be if Curt Schilling were on that list, especially in light of all of his recent criticism on Bonds and A-rod.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Fair enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if David Ortiz is on the list. Schilling on the other hand would have to be an incredible idiot to say the things he did if his name is on that list.
edit: I just don't see why anybody would want to be exposed as being a cheat.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#9766689 - 02/09/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's exactly why it would be so fucked up and it'd make a hell of a plot twist in this saga that's for sure. In all likelihood he probably didn't use PEDs, he just has balls of steel and pitches like a man possessed in high pressure situations.
If it ever came out that Nolan Ryan used the roids that would seriously bum me out though. That dude was my freakin idol as a kid.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: zappaisgod]
#9766871 - 02/09/09 04:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I'd rather see Clemens' name not on the list so the rat McNamee can get cornholed. No matter what the truth about Clemens is the truth about McNamee is that he is a rat. I don't think much of rats.
Wasn't he facing federal charges?
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: whattheheck]
#9766874 - 02/09/09 04:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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And forced to take an oath where he swore to tell the truth?
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Do you have a point or are you just being a typical condescending angst-ridden RS fan? 
Guilty as charged.
It IS seriously funny to read your old posts though and I'm honestly just rubbing your faces in it because you guys were SO sure of yourselves. Heck and I are just having a laugh at your expense.
In all seriousness, I'd bet most of the great players of our generation had a little bit of "help." I already put it out there that David Ortiz is a likely candidate but how fucked up would it be if Curt Schilling were on that list, especially in light of all of his recent criticism on Bonds and A-rod.
My estimation that 60%-70% of MLB'ers used gear stands. If you count substances that for seasoned weight training males worthless except for their power to heal injuries, I feel VERY confident about that number.
But this isn't just MLB. It everywhere, even pro golf.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: whattheheck]
#9766989 - 02/09/09 04:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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The interview is in two parts on ESPN's front page. He sure looks and sounds like he's sorry. I'm tired of this blame-shifting bullshit, claiming he doesn't know what he took. That's bullshit, I will never buy that from any player. At least Bonds tried to mask it by saying he didn't even know he took any at all, whereas Rodriguez is saying he knew he took them, he just didn't know what. Just own up man, it's not gonna make you look any worse.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: jewunit]
#9767000 - 02/09/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I listened to the interview this afternoon, they had it on ESPN radio a half-hour after it was completed.
The same thing that angers Jewunit is my problem. Why come halfway? I don't believe for a second he didn't know what it was, why not just go all the way?
Strange.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: Madtowntripper]
#9767021 - 02/09/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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It feels good coming out and being completely honest
Bullshit.
I really do believe most of the rest of this. Maybe he's a good actor, but I honestly believe he regrets his actions, I honestly believe he's clean (he's passed tests since then, correct?), and I still think he's disgustingly good, regardless of steroids.
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Re: Report: A-Rod tested positive in '03 [Re: jewunit]
#9767261 - 02/09/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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He's passed numerous tests. He also said he didn't know he failed that test until Roberts tried to sand bag him in the gym the other day.
I don't know what McNamee faced. If you are a drug dealer and you inform on your customers to get a more lenient sentence what are you?
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