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OfflineBlueBruiser
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Straw users?
    #744160 - 07/13/02 07:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How many of you use straw as a substrate? Where do you guys get yoru straw from?


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OfflineWaldarbeiter
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Re: Straw users? [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #744785 - 07/14/02 06:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hi !
I use staw, cuz I think it's very resistant to contaminations. I get it from my grandfather's farm, but you could also buy it in a pet shop.


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Re: Straw users? [Re: Waldarbeiter]
    #744837 - 07/14/02 07:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Minibales of straw can be obtained at most hobby/craft stores, ie. Hobby Lobby, Michaels, etc.

Straw is a good source of food and an easy way to turn 5 lb of colonized dung/castings into a 15 lb casing.





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OfflineBlueBruiser
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Re: Straw users? [Re: Millet]
    #745014 - 07/14/02 09:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone ever used a product from Petco called Alfalfa Hay? here are the stats from the Petco website:

Description
The high protein and nutritious content of this superior product promotes vigorous health and a glossy coat. The natural roughage aids digestion and helps keep teeth sound.

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude protein (min.) 17.0%, crude fat (min.) 1.0%, crude fiber (max.) 30.0%, moisture (max.) 15.0%.

its called Alfalfa hay but will this work in place of straw?


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OfflineShdwstr
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Re: Straw users? [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #745031 - 07/14/02 09:56 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have tried it... seemed to contaminate very quickly... the one tray that didn't gave extreamly poor yeils. The straw was much better.


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Straw users? [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #745043 - 07/14/02 10:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Never used alfafa hay. But, the alfalfa pellets from Petco -- work. Same stuff, as the hay, just shredded micro/fine . They will disintigrate when hydrated . Hydrate some dung (horse or cow), blend into a thin soup, hydrate pellets with that. You get the best of both worlds .

Warning -- when mixed like that, the material will heat up & compost a bit (so give it a few days to work itself out in a tub) & gnats love this stuff & appear out of no where. Keep a tight lid or stretch wrap over it, or you learn about gnats.

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Edited by SixTango (07/14/02 10:07 AM)


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OfflineBlueBruiser
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Re: Straw users? [Re: SixTango]
    #745049 - 07/14/02 10:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What about with worm castings? Can I use these with worm castings? any ideas?


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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: Straw users? [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #745184 - 07/14/02 11:34 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

please search, every one of you questions could be easily answered with a little work on your part.


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Re: Straw users? [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #745202 - 07/14/02 11:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I would guess so (why not). Just hydrate the WC'ings with a lot of water, to a thin soup consistancy & hydrate the pellets with that. SixTango


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Re: Straw users? [Re: SixTango]
    #757896 - 07/19/02 12:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

my experiences with straw were awful. two different types, both inundated with trichoderma. i thought straw was supposed to be resisitant, but apparently not the batches i had.


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Straw users? [Re: trainboy55]
    #758391 - 07/19/02 08:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

With straw, You have to be clean, pasturize well, have a clean place to cultivate. It isnt easy, otherwise everybody would be thowing colonized quarts of grain into haystacks in fields & waiting for a crop to pop out of it. Sometimes you win , sometimes not . Dung is probobly the most resistant to contans, if you manage to keep the gnats out of the mix. SixTango


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Re: Straw users? [Re: SixTango]
    #758807 - 07/19/02 11:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have always found straw to be the easiest but I sterilize and use bags as far as dung goes I always wind up using too much moisture. To cure my moisture problem I just put card board on the bottom so it soaks the moisture up and mycelium loves it.


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