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Re: BULK TEK QUESTION
    #73838 - 02/08/00 09:57 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

No offense intended. Judging by the fact that this is your first post and you don't know yield expectations I would say that you are a relative beginner that has only done a little research and want to make some money.
That said, do a lot more research.
You can't innoculate straw with liquid innocs, it just doesn't work.
Good luck with the cooling chambers, if you get them to work, post your results. They would be of great interest to people trying to grow azures indoors.
Ryche's A strain is supposedly better in heat, you might want to try it.
Pointers: More research, and get a lot better at growing small in a similar manner to how you will go bulk, that way you waste a lot of money in failed cultures.

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Re: BULK TEK QUESTION
    #73840 - 02/09/00 03:38 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hrm mycofile... I disagree. I think you can innoc straw with liquid innoc. I'm not saying it's the best approach, but it's doable. I've done this many a time with large bags of manure with great success. (Great for growing pans!) Due to the very close relation between manure and straw I believe that it would be possible...

however it's not the "best" approach.

The best approach would likely be the standard one. Liquid to bags, bags to straw. By bags I mean FPs hugo bags. I've done this many a time with birdseed and it works splendidly.

I can nearly guarantee your first time will be a failure, so keep it simple your first go round. Do several bags with smaller amounts. I wish I had done that my first time. Oh yea, and here is my liquid tek in case your interested:

If your target medium is straw:
Boil some water, turn it off and let the straw soak in there for about 3 hours. You can keep it on low heat if you like. Strain out the straw. Now use this water to make "standard" liquid innoc.

I.e. 4% by weight malt is added to the water. Don't bother with fancy equiptment, beer bottles with glass fragments work splendidly.

Add in an agar chunk once you've pcooked the above for about 30 mins and let it cool. Stir vigorously every 6 hours or so while awake. The stirring action with the glass fragments will cut up the agar chunks again and again, and in the end you will have the perfect sized third dimensional mycelial pieces for wickedly fast colonization. (Ref. GGMM) My best experience was using this technique with equadors which fully colonized an 8 lb bag of substrate in 7 days.

Have fun, and keep in mind you will make a mistake. If you sell your mushrooms for profit you will reap what you have sown.



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Re: BULK TEK QUESTION
    #73841 - 02/09/00 09:16 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Well ootw, granted I have not tried liquid innoc on straw myself, but stamets seems to think that it is a very bad idea indeed (TMC). Manure is able to absorb a lot more liquid than pasteurized straw is. Supposedly the liquid innoc just runs off of straw, and if any colonization occurs, it is not in time to keep contams away.
I agree with your recomendations, assuming that moonie has a few simpler rounds under his belt. I am of the opinion that everyone should do their first attempt either MMGG or PF tek nearly to the letter. This will give great experience, minimize frustration, and allow time for more research.
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Re: BULK TEK QUESTION
    #73842 - 02/09/00 01:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hehe, an excellent point indeed myco... of course it would run right off. It's funny how you miss the obvious sometimes. Good call.


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