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Spiders, Toads, and Fish! O My! Psychoactive Animals
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Everybody knows that Bufo alvarius (The Colorado River Toad) has 5-MeO-DMT in it's venom...but there are other psychoactive toads out there...does anybody know of any?

Inmates getting high on spider venom, people tripping out on fish, crazy hippies smoking toad venom...

Let us know everything you know about psychoactive animals...

I've heard theDudenj mention psychoactive Amazonian frogs/toads...

Please elaborate dude...


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Edited by Teotzlcoatl (09/04/07 09:29 PM)

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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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some sea fish are said to produce hallucinations when eaten


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Re: TOADS! [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
some sea fish are said to produce hallucinations when eaten


i saw this on descovery channel awhile back.

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Re: TOADS! [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Aw yes! I know, I'm changing this thread to psychoactive animals...

Could you get the link to the psychoactive fish...I actually saw a place that sold dry specimens...


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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maybe we can rehydrate it and clone it on some agar?


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Re: TOADS! [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
maybe we can rehydrate it and clone it on some agar?


:lol:

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Re: TOADS! [Re: ApacheShaman]
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Hahah...maybe...I'd like to have them in a fish tank...


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Id like to have them in my belly....


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Re: TOADS! [Re: strangladesh]
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Just because it says "hallucinations" dosn't mean that it's going to be a pleasant trip. It could be some sort of long lasting delerium...


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Siekoaktiv]
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yes, I've heard it sucks


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Source

Two men have suffered terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations after eating a popular local seafish in Mediterranean restaurants.

According to a clinical study on the patients, which is due to be published in the journal Clinical Toxicology, the men started seeing and hearing things after contracting a rare form of hallucinogenic poisoning from the Salema fish they were dining on.

The species is a popular food fish and is not normally hallucinogenic.

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish poisoning, is caused by eating the heads or body parts of certain species of herbivorous fish and has previously only been recorded from the Indo Pacific.

The effects of eating ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as certain mullet, goatfish, tangs, damsels and rabbitfish, are believed to be similar to LSD, and may include vivid and terrifying auditory and visual hallucinations. This has given rise to the collective common name for ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes of "dream fish".

Pommier and de Haro of the Toxicovigilance Centre Antipoison at Marseille's Hospital Salvator, who undertook the study, said that the men had both eaten a fish called Sarpa salpa, and subsequently suffered from CNS disturbances including terrifying hallucinations and nightmares.

One of the men, a 40-year old, was admitted to hospital suffering from a digestive problem and frightening visual and auditory hallucinations, which took 36 hours to disappear. The second man, a 90-year old, suffered from auditory hallucinations a couple of hours after eating the same species of fish, followed by a series of nightmares over the next two nights.

The poisoning can start to cause vivid hallucinations within minutes of eating a poisonous fish and may last for days, often with no other effects. There is no antidote.

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals. All of the species effected by ichthyoallyeinotoxism are algal grazers.

Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.

Sarpa salpa
The fish consumed by the men was a member of the Sparidae family and is commonly known as the Salema porgy.

The fish reaches a size of around 50cm/20" and occurs through much of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean. You can view the distribution of Sarpa salpa on Practical Fishkeeping's Fish Mapper.

According to the paper, Sarpa salpa was consumed as a recreational drug in the Med during the Roman Empire.


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Re: TOADS! [Re: TurntableJunky]
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it may be worth looking into...I don't think any trip is fun you don't know your going on...


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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According to the paper, Sarpa salpa was consumed as a recreational drug in the Med during the Roman Empire?!?!?!

WHAAAA?

This means it could be 100s of things throughout history...Maybe Soma was a fish...


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.

No freaking way...:eek:


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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Teotzlcoatl said:
Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.

No freaking way...:eek:


  yeah how did they find out??  did they have an maoi beforehand???

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Re: TOADS! [Re: cpw1971]
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I think that they tripped off of a different substance contained within the fish and then once they did testing they found out that it contained dmt.


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Edited by TurntableJunky (09/04/07 11:18 PM)

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Re: Spiders, Toads, and Fish! O My! Psychoactive Animals [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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$100 to anybody who can find me this fish :lol:

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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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I saw thing on the NGC where a guy got bit by a wester diamondback rattle snake, he was untreated for 2-3 days. He definately tripped balls in the time....But doesn't mean would should all go and do it. :grin:

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Re: TOADS! [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Teotzlcoatl said:
it may be worth looking into...I don't think any trip is fun you don't know your going on...


Agreed. It's a little biased to say that it gives frightening trips, when the only current accounted records are people that took it by accident.

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Re: TOADS! [Re: Helixx]
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to get back on topic, I too have heard of psycoactive animals. I have heard of a chamelion but no link. I wonder if all bufo family have dmt in their bufo-toxin.. maybe?

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