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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: fireworks_god]
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i wanna tea-bag mj in his sleep

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: fireworks_god]
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My words ringing a little too true perhaps?

Where are the people with more than half their posts in mushroom related forums? I don't see any of those people calling John a pedophile.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: shroomydan]
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Well no matter how much info he gave, he was still an asshole. And that point will always stand.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: implee]
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If you invent the flying car, that would be totaly awesome

If you invent the flying car, then shit on my chest, the flying cars fucking awesome but YOU as a PERSON fucking suck... Get it?

I say, can you dig that jive turkey?!

Edited by implee (08/12/07 09:12 AM)

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: shroomydan]
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It's because they worship him like the demigod he wishes he was.

While the pedophile accusations are unwarranted and should be met with harsh punishment, any other insults he receives IN OTD should not be punishable. Special rules shouldn't apply for him just because he knows a lot about mushrooms. In fact, one could argue that MJ has made himself a public figure, therefore making the burden of proof for slander and libel even higher.

While calling someone a pedo is stupid and childish, so is threatening to contact LEO's on the entire community. I do believe that those responsible for the pedo comments where banned anyways.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: shroomydan]
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You call me an elitist, and I will merely say you are uninformed.

I think he means elitist with regard to your "my drug is better than yours" attitude. To that extent, I agree with him. :shrug:

It's the height of hypocrisy for one drug user to tell another that their drug is bad and they shouldn't do it.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: Redstorm]
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Yeah well he shouldnt be an exception, people insult who they want when they want. And if there an asshole to the max, there gunna be insulted and called a pedo to the max.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: implee]
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The administration has made it clear that calling someone a pedophile is a bannable offense.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: implee]
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people insult who they want when they want. And if there an asshole to the max, there gunna be insulted and called a pedo to the max.





Thats not what the Shroomery is about man :nonono:


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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: Asante]
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Yeah but its not about being a dick to people all the time either, which MJ did

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
The administration has made it clear that calling someone a pedophile is a bannable offense.



Yeah, we don't need those kind of accusations being thrown around here. That's nothing but trouble, and will bring down unwarranted heat on us as a community. People that can't understand that, may need a vacation and I'll be happy to provide it.


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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: shroomydan]
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shroomydan said:
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I had never heard of this "Mushroom John" character before I signed up here at the Shroomery... he's just another face in the crowd like the rest of us.



You call me an elitist, and I will merely say you are uninformed.  John Allen has dedicated his life to learning and teaching others about magic mushrooms; his contribution is huge, but you don't know about it because you don't care about mushrooms. I looked at your post stats and noticed that you don't have any mushroom related posts. Nothing, not even one. 

Why should your opinion matter so much? There are thousands if not millions of Pub and OTD chat forums on the internet. There are even plenty of drug forums on the internet where people can hang out. Just because the one you hang out in happens to be on the same board as the advanced mycology forum, I'm supposed to value your opinion?

For all those bashing mjshroomer - where is your contribution? What do you do for the shroomery that makes you more important than John, important enough to spread malicious lies about him with impunity?



You see the difference lies in the fact that I never once asked you to value my opinion, I just toss it out there. Whereas you seem to imply that Johns or your own opinions hold more merit here (on this website) than others (opinions) because you know how to identify various strains of actives in the wild. :whatever: That is why I call you an elitist. Respect is earned on an individual basis my friend.

Sure the man has a wealth of information about mushrooms but so do many others who aren't condescending assholes that pose a security risk to the community. Really though what do mushrooms have anything to do with this (ones opinion on John [or yourself for that matter] as a person) anyway? Respect of a man for his knowledge shouldn't automatically negate his "faults", whatever said "faults" may be.

On another note you don't know me or what mushrooms mean to me. You've made assumptions based on "post stats" about several users now. Because somebody doesn't grow or hunt actives they "do not care about mushrooms"? You're just being naive. :scrambled:


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Edited by matt (08/12/07 12:03 PM)

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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Can't we all, just get along.:crankey:


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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: Brainiac]
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Not when theres fat old assholes involved :wink:

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: shroomydan]
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shroomydan said:
Why should anybody care what you think? Who are you?


MJ's major problem was allowing himself to get all riled up by the words of a few anonymous nobodies. Anonymity is for cowards. Furthermore, the shroomery is not a drug site. It's a mushroom site. Just because anonymous junkies are tolerated here does make the site an anonymous drug site.


Those who ran MJ off should be ashamed of themselves, and the admins who allowed it to happen should also be ashamed of themselves. We traded the world's premiere professional mushroom hunter for a bunch of pussy ass little boy internet thugs. It's nice to know the shroomery has its priorities right.  :rolleyes:




Look at my post stats, search my posts in the Mush Cult forum.  I've been there and done that already.  I got what I needed from those forums and no longer wish to clutter them with useless newb questions.  Trust me, I went through that phase.  I don't eat mushrooms constantly anymore.  I really don't understand where people like you and mjshroomer get this uppity attitude about the fact that you're both enthusiasts.  I love mushrooms and fungi in general, I don't obsess over the active species only.. nor do I spend my time here glorifying them.  Everyone already knows how great they are and what they can do for you.  I'd rather dick off in OTD or the Pub and just have light hearted, absurd fragmented conversations in my spare time and that's my right as a member - it doesn't give me any less of a right to make a statement about this.

This website is most certainly a drug related website.  It has explicit instructions on how to cultivate illegal mushrooms.  Fortunately, we live in a world where information is not illegal (in most countries).

The fact of the matter is, nobody should be volunteering information about themselves on an anonymous forum.  Period.  Say what you want, but this is an anonymous community and the people who have given their real names and pictures are in a vast minority.  You're just pissed off because your hero is gone.  He should not have any special treatment because he broke is anonymity.  Nobody should be allowed to accuse anyone here of pedophilia, but at the same time it's a huge difference between using someone's screenname and someone's real name.  If he didn't want people saying things about him or using his photographs, he should not have posted them.  I've posted plenty of mushroom pics and never incriminated myself in the process.  MJ just wanted people to glorify him as much as he glorifies himself.  My intent with this thread was to suggest that the admin do whatever they can to avoid another situation like this one.  The logical approach, to me, would be to let users know ahead of time that any personal info they give out is at their own risk and that they can't hold admin/staff responsible for the repercussions of doing so. 

It's obvious that you are idolizing mjshroomer for whatever reason, I suppose because he knows lots about psychedelic mushrooms - which are classified as illegal substances in most countries regardless of your personal beliefs or mine for that matter.  His actions here stirred up constant drama.  I could do a very brief search and find several examples of him causing drama in forums like the Pub, Grow Logs & Photos, etc. 

People like you and him are prime examples of people that shouldn't be doing psychedelics.  You've obviously got some kind of god complex or elitist mentality about yourself, as if you're enlightened by your "drug" use and are looking down at the rest of us who don't devote more time to it.

I think you need to get over yourself and mjshroomer too.  He was nothing but a condescending prick to 95% of the people who approached him on this forum.  He was even a dick to a lot of his biggest advocates.  He's unstable, childish, and a drama queen.  Good riddance, and I suggest you consider finding another forum if this one isn't up to your standards.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: idiotek]
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And the District Attorney of King County has also promised me to look into the OTD of the shroomery and the pedophile comments. IT seems there apparently are many other older posts my sister is already reading and copying for me on this.



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This shit has gone on far too many years and now I have just spent 45 minutes at the DA's office here in Seattle and I talked to the police about Hella_tight and his comments about pedophilia to me. Spreading slanderous lies and accusations about that subject is illegal in Washington State.




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I am going to the Seattle King County district attorneys office, talk to the police and file a complaint against him. And ask that the police monitor hiss shroomery membership. Making such statements against me is going to cause this site a lot of problems.



Fuck Mushroom John and fuck anyone defending this pig.


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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: StrandedVoyager]
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StrandedVoyager said:
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And the District Attorney of King County has also promised me to look into the OTD of the shroomery and the pedophile comments. IT seems there apparently are many other older posts my sister is already reading and copying for me on this.



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This shit has gone on far too many years and now I have just spent 45 minutes at the DA's office here in Seattle and I talked to the police about Hella_tight and his comments about pedophilia to me. Spreading slanderous lies and accusations about that subject is illegal in Washington State.




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I am going to the Seattle King County district attorneys office, talk to the police and file a complaint against him. And ask that the police monitor hiss shroomery membership. Making such statements against me is going to cause this site a lot of problems.



Fuck Mushroom John and fuck anyone defending this pig.




ROFL, can you imagine what would happen if he really did go to one of those places? I'm almost positive that he's full of shit anyway, but can you just picture the looks on their faces when this fat old hippie man comes in babbling about an online drug forum about mushrooms and how someone named "Hella_Tight" called him a child molester? I'd pay money to see footage of their initial reactions.

It's fucking laughable. He's a belligerent old weirdo.

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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: idiotek]
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1d10t3k said:
shroomydan said:
Why should anybody care what you think? Who are you?


MJ's major problem was allowing himself to get all riled up by the words of a few anonymous nobodies. Anonymity is for cowards. Furthermore, the shroomery is not a drug site. It's a mushroom site. Just because anonymous junkies are tolerated here does make the site an anonymous drug site.


Those who ran MJ off should be ashamed of themselves, and the admins who allowed it to happen should also be ashamed of themselves. We traded the world's premiere professional mushroom hunter for a bunch of pussy ass little boy internet thugs. It's nice to know the shroomery has its priorities right.  :rolleyes:




Look at my post stats, search my posts in the Mush Cult forum.  I've been there and done that already.  I got what I needed from those forums and no longer wish to clutter them with useless newb questions.  Trust me, I went through that phase.  I don't eat mushrooms constantly anymore.  I really don't understand where people like you and mjshroomer get this uppity attitude about the fact that you're both enthusiasts.  I love mushrooms and fungi in general, I don't obsess over the active species only.. nor do I spend my time here glorifying them.  Everyone already knows how great they are and what they can do for you.  I'd rather dick off in OTD or the Pub and just have light hearted, absurd fragmented conversations in my spare time and that's my right as a member - it doesn't give me any less of a right to make a statement about this.

This website is most certainly a drug related website.  It has explicit instructions on how to cultivate illegal mushrooms.  Fortunately, we live in a world where information is not illegal (in most countries).

The fact of the matter is, nobody should be volunteering information about themselves on an anonymous forum.  Period.  Say what you want, but this is an anonymous community and the people who have given their real names and pictures are in a vast minority.  You're just pissed off because your hero is gone.  He should not have any special treatment because he broke is anonymity.  Nobody should be allowed to accuse anyone here of pedophilia, but at the same time it's a huge difference between using someone's screenname and someone's real name.  If he didn't want people saying things about him or using his photographs, he should not have posted them.  I've posted plenty of mushroom pics and never incriminated myself in the process.  MJ just wanted people to glorify him as much as he glorifies himself.  My intent with this thread was to suggest that the admin do whatever they can to avoid another situation like this one.  The logical approach, to me, would be to let users know ahead of time that any personal info they give out is at their own risk and that they can't hold admin/staff responsible for the repercussions of doing so. 

It's obvious that you are idolizing mjshroomer for whatever reason, I suppose because he knows lots about psychedelic mushrooms - which are classified as illegal substances in most countries regardless of your personal beliefs or mine for that matter.  His actions here stirred up constant drama.  I could do a very brief search and find several examples of him causing drama in forums like the Pub, Grow Logs & Photos, etc. 

People like you and him are prime examples of people that shouldn't be doing psychedelics.  You've obviously got some kind of god complex or elitist mentality about yourself, as if you're enlightened by your "drug" use and are looking down at the rest of us who don't devote more time to it.

I think you need to get over yourself and mjshroomer too.  He was nothing but a condescending prick to 95% of the people who approached him on this forum.  He was even a dick to a lot of his biggest advocates.  He's unstable, childish, and a drama queen.  Good riddance, and I suggest you consider finding another forum if this one isn't up to your standards.



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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: idiotek]
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1d10t3k said:
StrandedVoyager said:
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And the District Attorney of King County has also promised me to look into the OTD of the shroomery and the pedophile comments. IT seems there apparently are many other older posts my sister is already reading and copying for me on this.



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This shit has gone on far too many years and now I have just spent 45 minutes at the DA's office here in Seattle and I talked to the police about Hella_tight and his comments about pedophilia to me. Spreading slanderous lies and accusations about that subject is illegal in Washington State.




Quote:
I am going to the Seattle King County district attorneys office, talk to the police and file a complaint against him. And ask that the police monitor hiss shroomery membership. Making such statements against me is going to cause this site a lot of problems.



Fuck Mushroom John and fuck anyone defending this pig.




ROFL, can you imagine what would happen if he really did go to one of those places?  I'm almost positive that he's full of shit anyway, but can you just picture the looks on their faces when this fat old hippie man comes in babbling about an online drug forum about mushrooms and how someone named "Hella_Tight" called him a child molester?  I'd pay money to see footage of their initial reactions.

It's fucking laughable.  He's a belligerent old weirdo.



No amount of money in the world would equal the hilarity of that scene. :rotfl:


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Re: On the mjshroomer situation. . . [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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woot nice own everyone! :thumbup:

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