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recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?)
    #7229503 - 07/27/07 07:11 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

how is it done?

how can you prevent hearing all drums a little trough all microphones?


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Re: recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?) [Re: stefan]
    #7229547 - 07/27/07 07:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you can't completley prevent some of the sound from other drums bleeding into other mics but you can minimize the sounds of other drums bleeding into other mics by having mics at the right angles and stuff.

Like keeping the snare mic pointed away from the hi-hat.

when a song gets mixed people usually use gates on the drum tracks to filter out any sound coming from another drum and the gate opens up above a certain threshold to let the sound of the drum that is miced through.

as for actually recording the drums with multiple mics:

2 Overhead mics are used , usually a stereo pair of small condensers.

something like a shure sm57 is used for the snare, i think the bottom and the top of the snare gets miced.

the kick drum gets miced with something like a shure beta52a or a AKG D112 kick drum mic.

not sure about tom mics, sometimes they don't get miced up.


as for the positioning of the mics i'm not 100% sure because there are lots of ways to do it depending on what sound you'd want, you could just use two overhead mics , a kick drum mic and a snare mic.


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Re: recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?) [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #7229553 - 07/27/07 07:47 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?) [Re: stefan]
    #7231926 - 07/27/07 10:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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stefan said:
how is it done?

how can you prevent hearing all drums a little trough all microphones?




dont boost the preamp.
every microphone is an omni microphone, but uses phase rejection to create the desired pattern of pick-up.
For example, if you wanted to make an SM-57 into an omni microphone, you just need to put tape around the area between the capsule and the casing.
Otherwise, the 57 is a cardiod pattern, which means that it picks up in a heart shaped (think 3-d as well) pattern from its tip.

The more you boost the preamp on a mic channel, the bigger that heart shaped pattern becomes, meaning that it picks up more and further away.
by keeping the preamp all the way down, you ensure that you are getting the tightest pick-up pattern.

or you can always do like steely dan did on one album and record each drum part seperately.


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Re: recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?) [Re: stefan]
    #7233421 - 07/28/07 01:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I actually prefer the sound when the kit is recorded with 1-3 mics. The two studio/recording forums at www.harmony-central.com can help you, but a lot of the stuff talked about there is fairly advanced.


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Re: recording a drumkit with multiple mics (how!?) [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7264928 - 08/06/07 03:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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The more you boost the preamp on a mic channel, the bigger that heart shaped pattern becomes, meaning that it picks up more and further away.
by keeping the preamp all the way down, you ensure that you are getting the tightest pick-up pattern.



Wow, I did not realize that. That's really great to know.

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or you can always do like steely dan did on one album and record each drum part seperately.



That wasn't a Steely Dan album, it was actually Donald Fagan's first solo record Nightfly.


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