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Cracka_X
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I wonder what freedom is like.
#6856533 - 05/01/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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one day...
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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MushroomTrip
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6856769 - 05/01/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Freedom? This is freedom: and this and this too ... and the like
Damn I missed those emoticons
-------------------- All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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BlueCoyote
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6856952 - 05/01/07 04:55 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Suffering limits us. So freedom is the absence of suffering, to fulfill ones' enjoyments into happiness and pleasure. Or something like that...
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dblaney
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6857118 - 05/01/07 06:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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How can freedom be in the future? Freedom is not anywhere else but right here and right now.
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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elbisivni
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6857557 - 05/01/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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freedom exists in the mind of the individual.
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Clean
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6858053 - 05/01/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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freedom from freedom is not freedom
such a funny word
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Icelander
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6858140 - 05/01/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cracka_X said: one day...
One day? When. How do you know? If you can't do it today what makes you think it will be here tomorrow?
Or maybe you're talking about death. As the old song goes "Any way now, any day now, I shall be released".;)
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Ped
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6858301 - 05/01/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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In When Things Fall Apart, Pema Chodron talks about how the best way to understand freedom is to understand your prison. She compares suffering to the shadow of a beautiful flower. Once you're quite familiar with the shape and outline of the shadow, it is easy to turn around and see the flower, and the light shining upon it.
Why acquaint yourself first with suffering? Because one of our most powerful tendencies is to avoid suffering at any cost, and this in fact is what binds us to it. You are familiar with a Chinese finger trap. It's very much like this. To experience freedom, you have to be willing to experience suffering of all kinds with your whole being, without resistance. This, of course, is much easier said, and is something mastered over a life time.
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Ped]
#6859155 - 05/01/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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you're already free or you wouldn't exist
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Cracka_X
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: dream_alchemy]
#6859898 - 05/01/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's so hard to answer all these. yes you're already free but I guess there's different degrees of freedom, death, for some, being ultimate freedom.
when I rant/bitch about this freedom above, I'm referring to the scheduling of life and the thought-out process of everything as opposed to the spontaneous nature that things occur in, at least for most people in america.
There's so much being hidden, because "That's the way it is" or "This is how we've done it for so many years". I want freedom from these chains.
Ped, yeah definately feel the chinese finger trap comparison. I'm gonna check out that book too.
All these responses are pretty much yeah I know.
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Cracka_X]
#6859912 - 05/01/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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JK
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leery11
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: vigilant_mind]
#6859928 - 05/01/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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ought we circulate those things even out of joy and jolly good humor?
think about what it is actually saying, the fact that someone took the time to create, and the fact that if certain people saw it would undoubtedly be one of the many apathetic hands pushing him off his own cliff
this is coming from someone who has been there.
our culture has plenty of nooses and bear traps lying around in, it is just biting, dabbling at first, but eventually you find that you can even make friends that will encourage you off the edge and facilitate your fall.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: leery11]
#6860202 - 05/01/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Freedom
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MushroomTrip
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: blewmeanie]
#6860209 - 05/01/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can see nothing from that pic, can you enlarge?
-------------------- All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#6862045 - 05/02/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its not like anyone gets my humor anyway.
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gluke bastid
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: Ped]
#6862214 - 05/02/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ped said: In When Things Fall Apart, Pema Chodron talks about how the best way to understand freedom is to understand your prison. She compares suffering to the shadow of a beautiful flower. Once you're quite familiar with the shape and outline of the shadow, it is easy to turn around and see the flower, and the light shining upon it.
Why acquaint yourself first with suffering? Because one of our most powerful tendencies is to avoid suffering at any cost, and this in fact is what binds us to it. You are familiar with a Chinese finger trap. It's very much like this. To experience freedom, you have to be willing to experience suffering of all kinds with your whole being, without resistance. This, of course, is much easier said, and is something mastered over a life time.
One of the best posts I've ever read! Thank you! +5 shrooms for you!
Mayhap I should check out this "Pema Chodron"
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MushroomTrip
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Re: I wonder what freedom is like. [Re: blewmeanie]
#6862706 - 05/02/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: Its not like anyone gets my humor anyway.
Lol I get it, now since I can see what it says
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